Why should federal employees get their pay back? (employment, Congress, salary)
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Need some explanation here. For those who didn’t work, why should they be paid?
Before you argue it’s not their fault, it’s not the taxpayers’ fault either. In the private sector, if a company shuts down due to slow sales, nobody would be paid.
Since they will get the pay back for not doing any work, that’s like paid vacation! Frankly, all the whining from the federal employees is only because they have no savings when they know government shutdowns are not rare events.
Congress approved and Trump signed legislation yesterday guaranteeing retroactive pay to all employees. This legislation is not limited to this shutdown.
The Senate vote was unanimous. 7 House Reps voted against it because it applied to future shutdowns.
Congress approved and Trump signed legislation yesterday guaranteeing retroactive pay to all employees. This legislation is not limited to this shutdown.
The Senate vote was unanimous. 7 House Reps voted against it because it applied to future shutdowns.
Need some explanation here. For those who didn’t work, why should they be paid?
Before you argue it’s not their fault, it’s not the taxpayers’ fault either. In the private sector, if a company shuts down due to slow sales, nobody would be paid.
Since they will get the pay back for not doing any work, that’s like paid vacation! Frankly, all the whining from the federal employees is only because they have no savings when they know government shutdowns are not rare events.
Um, it is the taxpayers' fault, as we vote these people into office. Now, I didn't vote for Trump, but the way our government functions means he is the president for all of this. He speaks for the taxpayers, and he made this choice. (Full disclosure--I think it was a bad decision of EPIC proportions!)
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer
I don’t agree with Trump on everything.
What’s the moral justification for this?
The moral justification is that federal workers are employed in service to the country. They have no control over a shut-down. And consider that without pay, many would need government services to make ends meet, which is a cost to the taxpayers.
Can you imagine the mass exodus of employees if they were not going to get paid? There's a good chance a lot of them are seeking work elsewhere anyway with this stunt. If the entire workforce of the federal government were not going to be paid, and knowing that this is basically a "I didn't get my way so I'm shutting the government down" tantrum - with a good chance it happens again the next time he doesn't get his way, there would be a complete employment crisis.
In addition - many of them ARE still showing up to work because their work is essential (TSA comes to mind). I would hope you would think they should still be paid.
Well if the worker is forced to keep working without a paycheck they should certainly be paid once the budget is approved.
If the worker is on a salary and is sent home through no fault of their own they should be paid.
The real fault lies in the Democrat leaders that are refusing to talk about common sense border security. Where was Pelosi and others when the shutdown began? They went to Puerto Rico to hang out on the beach. Nice.
The workers are not to blame and they are the ones suffering while the politicians continue to get paid and go about their lives. That should speak volumes about who they are.
Need some explanation here. For those who didn’t work, why should they be paid?
Before you argue it’s not their fault, it’s not the taxpayers’ fault either. In the private sector, if a company shuts down due to slow sales, nobody would be paid.
Since they will get the pay back for not doing any work, that’s like paid vacation! Frankly, all the whining from the federal employees is only because they have no savings when they know government shutdowns are not rare events.
first, company shuts down due to low sales is not something anyone can control. government shut down is.
second, it is the taxpayers fault. Trump and the democrat politicians in DC are voted by the tax payers. We put them in power.
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
Well if the worker is forced to keep working without a paycheck they should certainly be paid once the budget is approved.
If the worker is on a salary and is sent home through no fault of their own they should be paid.
The real fault lies in the Democrat leaders that are refusing to talk about common sense border security. Where was Pelosi and others when the shutdown began? They went to Puerto Rico to hang out on the beach. Nice.
The workers are not to blame and they are the ones suffering while the politicians continue to get paid and go about their lives. That should speak volumes about who they are.
As IF Trump isn't at bare minimum guilty of the same?
And let's not forget, Trump gladly accepted responsibility for the shutdown. So, should we not hold him responsible or was he just LYING which is certainly not an uncommon occurrence?
BTW, Let's see some proof of your otherwise baseless allegation that Pelosi went to Puerto Rico to "hang out on the beach".
Well if the worker is forced to keep working without a paycheck they should certainly be paid once the budget is approved.
If the worker is on a salary and is sent home through no fault of their own they should be paid.
The real fault lies in the Democrat leaders that are refusing to talk about common sense border security. Where was Pelosi and others when the shutdown began? They went to Puerto Rico to hang out on the beach. Nice.
The workers are not to blame and they are the ones suffering while the politicians continue to get paid and go about their lives. That should speak volumes about who they are.
You need to stop stating incorrect information.
39 Democrats out of, what, 235 (don't have the exact number handy) went to Puerto Rico to meet with the U.S. citizens to get a status of post hurricane recover relief efforts from Hurricane Maria. Pelosi did not go on this trip and was right here helping to produce spending bills that MM will not even look at.
Trump lied and said she went as did the right wing media. Even though it's been reported dozens of times she did not go, you won't stop repeating the #FakeNews.
You know, Cape Cod Todd, I generally find you to be a respectful poster and I think you care, unlike some of the others here; however, when I see you parrot wrong information it makes me doubt anything else you might post and, believe it or not, I do like to have an honest dialogue with people.
Last edited by ChristineVA; 01-17-2019 at 08:43 AM..
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