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Old 01-18-2019, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You do realize the Fascists were a right wing party, right?
fascism which is socialism lite is left wing




that is why FDR admired Mussolini, he found/founded the "3rd way"

 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Anybody who thinks Trump is a liberal either has no idea of what Trump does and espouses or has no clue as to what a liberal is.
he is/has been , a life long new York liberal democrat.....
 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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from trump:

" [ Cohen ] Lying to reduce his jail time! Watch father-in-law! "


i'm trying to figure out why trump thinks that hinting at knowledge of someone else's illegal activity but doing nothing about it helps his case.
There's no figuring out Trump; he's saying Cohen is committing perjury to reduce his jail time. Yeah, that makes sense.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking pull-EEZ!

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that's because liberals lie..and trump, being a life long new York liberal, is a know liar, just like every other liberal

From 1998...

In tRump's own words.

 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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Trump knows sheep when he sees them.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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yep.





yep.... who kept recorded phone conversations, texts and emails.


i doubt this will just come down to cohen's word vs trump's.


Anything's possible....

But something tells me that if Cohen had actual evidence of Trump committing a felony, he would have gotten a MUCH better deal than he did.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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yep he even uses liberal tactics
 
Old 01-18-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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And BTW, you still didn't understand the links.

In the case of Trump and Cohen, at the outset nobody committed a crime. Donald Trump then told Cohen to commit a crime. Cohen then went ahead and did it at Trump's instruction.

In the case of politicians and illegal immigrants, the politicians did not instruct any particular person ahead of time to immigrate illegally. The people who immigrated illegally did it on their own. It's only after they had already committed the crime that some politicians decided it was OK that they were here. It's more akin to a pardon of an already-committed crime than abetting someone before the fact.
hmm..

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Donald Trump then told Cohen to commit a crime. Cohen then went ahead and did it at Trump's instruction.
So Cohen had no choice WHATSOEVER to disobey what Trump said huh? None.

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Cohen then went ahead and did it
Then that is on him 100%
 
Old 01-18-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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Anything's possible....

But something tells me that if Cohen had actual evidence of Trump committing a felony, he would have gotten a MUCH better deal than he did.
According to the article, Cohen wasn't the only source talking about Trump's instructing him to lie. There is testimony of other witnesses, emails, texts, etc. Mueller is no fool.
 
Old 01-18-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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he is/has been , a life long new York liberal democrat.....
Trump has no stance or belief system in anything and will fly the flag of whatever and whichever place person or thing that can enrich him.
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