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As I've already stated in this topic I think it's perfectly reasonable for the average citizen to have the same firepower as the police. On the other hand being able to go to you local gun store and buy a shoulder fired surface to air missile to knock 747's out of the sky is just not realistic.
So, the right to self defense is only valid up to the point where your attackers are using an airplane?
Freedom from arms and gun-worshiping is as important as freedom to bear arms. They are two equal sides of the same coin of freedom and liberty in this country.
There is a place for both, but the latter side is increasingly groveling and clamoring for attention and power; pushing our overall "pendulum" of freedoms and liberties out of balance. Therein lies the real issue.
Freedom from arms and gun-worshiping is as important as freedom to bear arms. They are two equal sides of the same coin of freedom and liberty in this country.
There is a place for both, but the latter side is increasingly groveling and clamoring for attention and power; pushing our overall "pendulum" of freedoms and liberties out of balance. Therein lies the real issue.
No. The ones pushing the pendulum out of balance are those pushing for more restrictions on firearms. Prior to the modern (within the last +/- 30 years) "common sense" gun control push this wasn't even a conversation.
Freedom from arms and gun-worshiping is as important as freedom to bear arms. They are two equal sides of the same coin of freedom and liberty in this country.
There is a place for both, but the latter side is increasingly groveling and clamoring for attention and power; pushing our overall "pendulum" of freedoms and liberties out of balance. Therein lies the real issue.
Just as with God only knows how many other items that have been used either from neglect or intentional to kill or maim people, firearms are inanimate objects that don't have minds of their own. You might just as well advocate for freedom against all of those items too? People who worship their lawfully owned property, individual civil liberties and Constitutional law are not the one's that you have to worry about. None of it has anything to do with "groveling and clamoring for attention and power" by the latter side. Only those who wish to control every aspect of our lives are interested in that. Therein lies the real issue.
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There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a socialist state. The first is the most important.
1 Healthcare—control healthcare and you control the people.
2 Poverty—increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3 Debt—increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4 Gun control—Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5 Welfare—Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, income).
6 Education—Take control of what people read and listen to–take control of what children learn in school.
7 Religion—Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools.
8 Class warfare—Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Freedom from arms and gun-worshiping is as important as freedom to bear arms. They are two equal sides of the same coin of freedom and liberty in this country.
There is a place for both, but the latter side is increasingly groveling and clamoring for attention and power; pushing our overall "pendulum" of freedoms and liberties out of balance. Therein lies the real issue.
Right, wrong or indifferent you CAN'T have freedom from the existence of guns. There are already 3-400 MILLION guns in private hands and no new law is ever gonna make them disappear. Beyond that, even the countries with the strictest gun control like France or Australia have major problems with guns smuggled into the country and even homemade weapons finding their way into the hands of criminals, terrorists and others who would do harm to innocent people.
You might as well stand in a swamp and demand your "right" to be free from mosquito bites.
Right, wrong or indifferent you CAN'T have freedom from the existence of guns. There are already 3-400 MILLION guns in private hands and no new law is ever gonna make them disappear. Beyond that, even the countries with the strictest gun control like France or Australia have major problems with guns smuggled into the country and even homemade weapons finding their way into the hands of criminals, terrorists and others who would do harm to innocent people.
You might as well stand in a swamp and demand your "right" to be free from mosquito bites.
Ahhh here's the kicker...
They can have freedom from guns.
Don't buy any. Don't build any. Don't possess any. There. Freedom from firearms.
That's the beauty of freedom. Choice.
Where it crosses to tyranny is forcing others to do what you prescribe them to.
Want freedom from firearms? I hear Mexico is very strict with gun laws and low rates of firearm ownership.
I hear Russia and many other nations don't have a 2nd amendment...
My point was that I'm not anti-gun ownership. I get categorized incorrectly because my views on most things are more moderate.
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Ahhh here's the kicker...
They can have freedom from guns.
Don't buy any. Don't build any. Don't possess any. There. Freedom from firearms.
That's the beauty of freedom. Choice.
Where it crosses to tyranny is forcing others to do what you prescribe them to.
Want freedom from firearms? I hear Mexico is very strict with gun laws and low rates of firearm ownership.
I hear Russia and many other nations don't have a 2nd amendment...
Yeah, they'll never get it... yet more laws won't stop bad things from happening and you can only loose in the end by giving up more rights for promises of safety that can't be delivered upon in the real world.
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