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Old 01-31-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by MissPickel View Post
Yet one of the students asked permission to get the group all worked up -- loud & boisterous w/their aggressive school chants in retaliation to the slurs, & the chaperone condoned the engagement.

There was no "adult in the room" when the sandman chose to grandstand for his buddies. Either. Was the "chaperone" too afraid of the old Indian playing an indigenous prayer song on his drum to "protect" the young self-appointed hero -- standing there all alone against the mean old indigenous man?

It wasn't difficult to read the boys faces in the crowd. The 'face off' was all about control & who's got it. The students had the numbers & the decibels. It must have been very heady for the covcath youngsters. Sure looked like it to me. Maybe that's why the parent$ had to hire a PR firm & plot their fancy footwork. Teaching the children well.
Holy cripes...is that the spin you're going with? Are you implying that school cheers are "aggressive"?

Just think of all the schools across America - all those angry mobs, working themselves up and being dangerous at football games, basketball games, track, other sporting events! The horror! Why has this never been addressed before? All these parents for all this time, allowing this to happen, and not a peep!

THANK GOD YOU SHOWED UP to inform us all of these dangerous mobs at thousands of schools in this country!

Reality:

The school chants were to boost their own spirits - they had been harassed and insulted for an HOUR! The school cheers were also to drown out the screaming and yelling by the racists in the HI group who had been insulting them for an hour. They were there to catch a bus not get treated like garbage and racist slurs thrown at them. The chaperones encouraged it because they knew that the kids needed to ignore the racist group of HIs. And had the chaperone approached Nathan Phillips and his goons, it wouldn't have ended as well as it did.

The only "fancy footwork" going on here is from idiots who have threatened these kids, doxxed these kids, and have openly advocated for such things to happen. The kids were not wrong. Grown adults, on the other hand, they've definitely been showing their asses lately. Smack yourself again, lady.

 
Old 01-31-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Originally Posted by parfleche View Post
Most of the wrong was done by the media after the event.editing tapes and spinning a false story.
Yep, that's the way I see it.

Everything prior to that, was a sign of an environment of open and robust political expression exercised within the rules.
 
Old 01-31-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by G1.. View Post
The attacks on him have been proven false , move on.
Only in your mind.

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Originally Posted by auntieannie68 View Post
no matter how this is spun , the "children"needed to step back,the chaperones needed to address the other adults, and that was THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE TO WEAR THE HATS (NO RALLY)

AND THAT WAS A SMIRK!!!!
Are you him?

Because if you're not him, you don't have a clue.

The Media chose a narrative and then skewed everything and edited the video to fit the narrative they chose.

That kid was chosen for sacrifice by the Media, and nothing he did could prevent that.

If the kid had frowned, then he would have been condemned for not being "receptive."

If the kid had smiled, he would have been condemned for "mocking."

Had the kid remained totally stoically expressionless, then he would have been condemned for not smiling, but had he smiled, he would have been lambasted for "mocking."

The kid's only "crime" is that he was wearing a MAGA hat. Had he been wearing nothing, the Media would have totally ignored the incident.

And, so what if he actually was smirking? He's allowed to do that. He's allowed to respond in any non-violent manner he wants.

So, get over it already.
 
Old 01-31-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
Emoji is not a counter argument.

This said,

Philips has claimed to be a Vietnam Veteran and called himself a recon ranger. There is no such a thing as recon ranger in the Marine Corps. You are either a Force Recon, or an Army ranger.

In reality he's a Vietnam Era Veteran, never served in Vietnam but was a 4 year USMC reservist and refrigerator mechanic who went AWOL a few times and got out after 4 years as a private.


I'm pretty surprised to have seen you who claim to have two Marine son in laws stick up for the guy, it's usually unacceptable to make such a false claim.

The only time the phrase/term " Recon Ranger '' is ever heard and/or used in the corps, is during a cadence/formation run. THAT"S IT.

Anyone who has served in the corps knows full well that Marines who are part of Reconnaissance Battalions are identified as '' Recon Marines '' not '' Recon Rangers. ''

And Marines above all, never mess this up or become confused about these types of terms.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4gLqFEB4hI
 
Old 01-31-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Only in your mind.



Are you him?

Because if you're not him, you don't have a clue.

The Media chose a narrative and then skewed everything and edited the video to fit the narrative they chose.

That kid was chosen for sacrifice by the Media, and nothing he did could prevent that.

If the kid had frowned, then he would have been condemned for not being "receptive."

If the kid had smiled, he would have been condemned for "mocking."

Had the kid remained totally stoically expressionless, then he would have been condemned for not smiling, but had he smiled, he would have been lambasted for "mocking."

The kid's only "crime" is that he was wearing a MAGA hat. Had he been wearing nothing, the Media would have totally ignored the incident.

And, so what if he actually was smirking? He's allowed to do that. He's allowed to respond in any non-violent manner he wants.

So, get over it already.
get over my opinion???

what r u asking? that I go along with yours????
 
Old 01-31-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by auntieannie68 View Post
get over my opinion???

what r u asking? that I go along with yours????
The poster probably meant get over a smirk.

He made a valid point. It was not about a smirk, come on, you know what he said is true. It is about the MAGA hat and the assumptions/judgments associated with that hat.

In case it is really about a smirk for you, it is not worth it to hold on to such outrage over a teeanger you probably will never meet in the future. Plus, Unless a person has significant narcissistic features to his/her personalities, the person won't be bothered by a smirk, especially a smirk from a teenager.

Assuming the worst in others is not healthy or wise. Many people (adults included) "smirk" because they are nervous. They don't know how to act in an unknown situation. Most people know judging a child (or anyone) using 20/20 perfect hindsight is at the very least, unfair.

Last edited by lilyflower3191981; 01-31-2019 at 08:27 PM..
 
Old 01-31-2019, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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A NeoLiberal is an enemy of inherent rights, for he supports collectivism and slavery to the glorious socialist state.
Such people have no moral compass that would deter them from making false accusations, lying nor doing any repugnant thing to advance their cause.

Ironically, they may trigger a reaction that destroys the whole NeoLiberal ideology - a withdrawal of consent from usury, socialism and democratic submission to the collective State.

Remember, pursuant to the "Declaration of Independence" governments are instituted among men to secure endowed rights and only govern those who consent. Consent implies one can WITHDRAW CONSENT, as well as give consent. (FYI - all state constitutions repeat the promises of the DoI, thus making it the foundation of all American law.)
 
Old 01-31-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
39,849 posts, read 26,477,889 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissPickel View Post
Yet one of the students asked permission to get the group all worked up -- loud & boisterous w/their aggressive school chants in retaliation to the slurs, & the chaperone condoned the engagement.

There was no "adult in the room" when the sandman chose to grandstand for his buddies. Either. Was the "chaperone" too afraid of the old Indian playing an indigenous prayer song on his drum to "protect" the young self-appointed hero -- standing there all alone against the mean old indigenous man?

It wasn't difficult to read the boys faces in the crowd. The 'face off' was all about control & who's got it. The students had the numbers & the decibels. It must have been very heady for the covcath youngsters. Sure looked like it to me. Maybe that's why the parent$ had to hire a PR firm & plot their fancy footwork. Teaching the children well.
There was no "adult in the room" when Phillips chose to grandstand for his racist buddies and threaten and intimidate a child, while subjecting him to racist taunts. It isn't hard to read his face-raw hostility and hatred. Enough so that he would fabricate a bogus video, present it to the media and then lie about what happened. Thankfully Mr. Sandmann and the children acted like adults, even if the other side could not. Perhaps someday Mr. Phillips and his friends will show the maturity of 15 year old kids. But I would not count on it-he has made a living playing the victim.
 
Old 01-31-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Isn't it sad how leftists are debating the nuances of a "smirk" in order to justify the media defaming someone as a racist, even though he did and said nothing? All while ignoring the people who called him a cracker and told him to go back to Europe?

Last edited by neko_mimi; 01-31-2019 at 09:45 PM..
 
Old 01-31-2019, 09:36 PM
 
78,326 posts, read 60,517,579 times
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Originally Posted by auntieannie68 View Post
get over my opinion???

what r u asking? that I go along with yours????
That's precious after you've told people how they should think, what they should wear, what facial expression they should have and where they should go....at the risk of being justifiably (according to you again) assaulted by yourself and others for breaking your rules.
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