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Old 01-23-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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Gen Z here, and I agree. Diversity is the name of the game as well. All of us are early 20s and teens we have many more years to go than the angry boomers on here. Lol it's just a waiting game. Honestly I think we were more conservative I was myself, but I think Trump will have an ever lasting impact on making us much more liberal. There's an all out assault on young people especially by conservatives in this country, and trust me all it does and take us more and more to the left.
This is something the Conservatives should take note of. These generations are coming of age in the era of Trump. They will form their political opinions based on what they are seeing happening in the country right now. They hate Trump, and by extension, the party that is propping him up. The GOP is trading short term gains for long term destruction. Works for me.

And for the record, I'm a late baby boomer and I'm very much a progressive. Don't label all baby boomers as the same. There's a world of difference between a boomer born in 1946 and one born in 1960. We couldn't be more different politically.
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It's pretty well documented that people tend to be more Left-leaning and idealistic when they're younger and they tend to become more Conservative and realistic as they grow older. The OP kinda missed that point. Gen Z is already roughly equal to the Millenials when it comes to Conservatism. Like every generation before them, the Millennial Generation has increased its % of Conservatism over time.

Effectively, GenZ is starting out dead-even with their parents. They're going to move Right. Everyone just inherently knows this. You're filled with wide eyed optimism and idealism as you graduate High School and College -- then reality smacks you squarely in the face. You quickly realize that life is a lot harder than you imagined it would be. Your worldview tends to move Right from that point on. The fact that GenZ is starting out more Conservative is actually quite significant because they're starting out more Conservative than any generation in a very long time. They're the first generation since WW2 generation to break the trend of gradually moving to the Left with each new generation.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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Millennials, Gen Z... the whole group should just be called Gen media. These are people whose opinions have formed, not through first hand knowledge, but through the curated information and propaganda coming through the devices they have stared at their entire lives. Cool people on Twitter say we need more diversity and government, so they'll say it too, even if none of their limited personal experience confirms that.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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It's pretty well documented that people tend to be more Left-leaning and idealistic when they're younger and they tend to become more Conservative and realistic as they grow older. The OP kinda missed that point. Gen Z is already roughly equal to the Millenials when it comes to Conservatism. Like every generation before them, the Millennial Generation has increased its % of Conservatism over time.

Effectively, GenZ is starting out dead-even with their parents. They're going to move Right. Everyone just inherently knows this. You're filled with wide eyed optimism and idealism as you graduate High School and College -- then reality smacks you squarely in the face. You quickly realize that life is a lot harder than you imagined it would be. Your worldview tends to move Right from that point on. The fact that GenZ is starting out more Conservative is actually quite significant because they're starting out more Conservative than any generation in a very long time. They're the first generation since WW2 generation to break the trend of gradually moving to the Left with each new generation.
The two thing you're missing is Trump, and social media this will definitely change the way things are going.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:04 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Millennials, Gen Z... the whole group should just be called Gen media. These are people whose opinions have formed, not through first hand knowledge, but through the curated information and propaganda coming through the devices they have stared at their entire lives. Cool people on Twitter say we need more diversity and government, so they'll say it too, even if none of their limited personal experience confirms that.
Way to generalize half the country. Can I say out of touch.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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This is something the Conservatives should take note of. These generations are coming of age in the era of Trump. They will form their political opinions based on what they are seeing happening in the country right now. They hate Trump, and by extension, the party that is propping him up. The GOP is trading short term gains for long term destruction. Works for me.

And for the record, I'm a late baby boomer and I'm very much a progressive. Don't label all baby boomers as the same. There's a world of difference between a boomer born in 1946 and one born in 1960. We couldn't be more different politically.
Sorry, but alot of the stuff that I see some folks write, I'm at a loss for words as to how some can think what they do. A good example is the ban of the transgenders in the military the right see this as a victory, but I see this as something that will turn many many young people away from the right. LGBTQ individuals to us is something we don't think about we're past the point of not understanding different people, and looking at them differently.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Millennials, Gen Z... the whole group should just be called Gen media. These are people whose opinions have formed, not through first hand knowledge, but through the curated information and propaganda coming through the devices they have stared at their entire lives. Cool people on Twitter say we need more diversity and government, so they'll say it too, even if none of their limited personal experience confirms that.
As anyone with a beloved but gullible elderly relative who loves to spread fake news/chain letters that they saw on some tabloid website around knows, it is so far from the truth to say the younger generation are alone in this problem. With the exception of this being something that they've done all of their lives.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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The two thing you're missing is Trump, and social media this will definitely change the way things are going.
What smoking weed and listening to Black Sabbath was to kids in the 70's, ****posting and wearing a MAGA hat are now. The media as it existed back then tried to tell kids to "Stop smoking the Devil's weed and turn off that Satan worshipper music."

Oh I'm sure that we'll continue to see the overwhelmingly Left-biased media try to right the ship. It won't work. GenZ is going to push back and rebel. Somewhere a very strange thing happened. The Democrats and Leftists turned into the moral busy-bodies telling everyone how to speak, think, talk and act. It was the Left that took the swimsuit contest out of the Miss America pageant. It was the Left that keeps shutting down any career opportunities for attractive women who want to use their looks to make money. It is the Left that is actively policing what people say and getting them kicked off of Twitter and Facebook for wrong-think. It was the Left that pushed for and got a complete ban of pornography on Tumblr. It's the Left that's just dying to destroy your life for "sinful behavior." Progressivism has unwittingly turned into a religion and that religion loves them some Inquisitioning. It leaves a lot of traditional Liberals with nobody to vote for. And it is the Left that becomes the stuffy old parental figure that young people desperately want to rebel against.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Did you miss the part where this very small survey included 13 year olds?
The methodology is pretty entertaining, if you want a case study in participation bias.

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This particular survey featured interviews with 920 teens ages 13 to 17. Interviews were conducted online and by telephone from September 17 to November 25, 2018. Of the 920 teens, 389 were sampled directly from NORC’s AmeriSpeak Teen Panel. These are teens living in empaneled households who have already agreed to participate in surveys and for whom parental consent has already been obtained. The remaining 531 teens came from a sample of AmeriSpeak households known to have at least one child ages 12 to 17. In these households, sampled adults were screened to confirm that they were the parent or guardian of a teen ages 13 to 17 and were asked to solicit the participation of their teen.

The teens survey had a survey completion rate of 55% (920 completed interviews out of 1,683 screened eligible panelists for whom parental consent was granted). After accounting for nonresponse to the panel recruitment surveys, attrition, and nonresponse to the parental screener, the weighted cumulative response rate for the teens survey is 5%.
I'm sorry OP, but you can probably find better studies out there to support your predictions on GenZ.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Way to generalize half the country. Can I say out of touch.
Of course I'm generalizing. That's what were doing in this thread, generalizing about how Gen Z thinks. Do I really need to preface a comment like that with, "In general..."?
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