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Old 01-24-2019, 05:53 PM
 
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Yea, except Trump won the election in a free and fair way - the people who can't accept that can't accept reality

That is as accurate as saying that Bush won the 2000 elections. Election fraud will never happened in the US, right?

Gore won the 2000 elections, most people in Florida knows this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEoUmNbpgjg

Remember how Trump said there was going to be election fraud? Well, he didn't tell it was going to work his way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ3lYGqBACo

Or what about Hilary Clinton stealing the primary from Bernie?
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Here is more about election fraud so you all can come down from the cloud you are in.

There are many ways to steal elections. In developed countries politicians don't advocate for protests or violence, they save face and realized the other side was better at cheating. In poor countries they make so much noise to let the world know there has been fraud. In the US these sort of things are sweep under the rug and the peace and respect for authority is maintained.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSEOd1W3fZA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhQ3Ec33NKA

I would also add that these methods are not the complete story, there are other forms of election fraud.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, picture this statement paraphrased for Trump:

“Nicolás Maduro is a dictator with no legitimate claim to power,” Mr. Pence said. “He’s never won the presidency in a free and fair election, and he’s maintained his grip on power by imprisoning anyone who dares to oppose him.”

It's what Pence said. A poor choice of words. I wonder if he realized it's how many people regard Trump. Of course, Trump, too, wants to imprison people who dares to oppose him.


uhm


like him or not, he is the legitimate POTUS


and where has he tried to imprison any opposition??...






/end trolling/flaming thread
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That is as accurate as saying that Bush won the 2000 elections. Election fraud will never happened in the US, right?

Gore won the 2000 elections, most people in Florida knows this.


?
1. it was the FLORIDA supreme court...not the federal supreme court

2. EVERY recount had bush win florida

3. it was the democrats that rejected the military vote

bush did win....not by much...but bush did win

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-b...onducted-media

http://www.google.com.kw/url?sa=t&rc...78597519,d.d2s


the goreites should stop the whining
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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That is as accurate as saying that Bush won the 2000 elections. Election fraud will never happened in the US, right?

Gore won the 2000 elections, most people in Florida knows this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEoUmNbpgjg

Remember how Trump said there was going to be election fraud? Well, he didn't tell it was going to work his way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ3lYGqBACo

Or what about Hilary Clinton stealing the primary from Bernie?
In terms of the Bush election, most of the studies show that Gore DID NOT win the election in Florida. Fact is if he couldn't even win his home state. Give it a rest!
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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No I don’t see the comparison. I do think people executive power creep can lead us to a dictator like president. But to say Trump is that person is too far, his power has severe limits if congress had a back bone to limit.

What we see here is a ineffective legislative branch starting in 2010. Our congress became comfortable just opposing everything and protesting. Congress forgot its suppose to pass bills and are 1/3 of the power structure. We have been a country run by Executive Orders for 18 years. Maybe we are starting to see a change with Democrats back in majority but I’m not optimistic.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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No I don’t see the comparison. I do think people executive power creep can lead us to a dictator like president. But to say Trump is that person is too far, his power has severe limits if congress had a back bone to limit.

What we see here is a ineffective legislative branch starting in 2010. Our congress became comfortable just opposing everything and protesting. Congress forgot its suppose to pass bills and are 1/3 of the power structure. We have been a country run by Executive Orders for 18 years. Maybe we are starting to see a change with Democrats back in majority but I’m not optimistic.
Interesting take on it but in many ways a Congress that gets nothing done is an EFFECTIVE Congress. Go by the old axiom - it's it's not broken don't fix it. Sure those with a political axe to grind may want to "make things great again". When of course things are pretty freaking good, thank you very much.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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so, picture this statement paraphrased for trump:

“nicolás maduro is a dictator with no legitimate claim to power,” mr. Pence said. “he’s never won the presidency in a free and fair election, and he’s maintained his grip on power by imprisoning anyone who dares to oppose him.”

it's what pence said. A poor choice of words. I wonder if he realized it's how many people regard trump. Of course, trump, too, wants to imprison people who dares to oppose him.
catch the irony have either laurel and hardy looked in the mirror yet?
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
So, picture this statement paraphrased for Trump:

“Nicolás Maduro is a dictator with no legitimate claim to power,” Mr. Pence said. “He’s never won the presidency in a free and fair election, and he’s maintained his grip on power by imprisoning anyone who dares to oppose him.”

It's what Pence said. A poor choice of words. I wonder if he realized it's how many people regard Trump. Of course, Trump, too, wants to imprison people who dares to oppose him.
there are a lot of stupid people in the world, I bet you know a bunch of them
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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1. it was the FLORIDA supreme court...not the federal supreme court

2. EVERY recount had bush win florida

3. it was the democrats that rejected the military vote

bush did win....not by much...but bush did win

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-b...onducted-media

http://www.google.com.kw/url?sa=t&rc...78597519,d.d2s


the goreites should stop the whining

A study from the media is just biased observations, not a recount.

From your own link:
Nobody can say for sure who might have won. A full, official recount of all votes statewide could have gone either way, but one was never conducted.
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