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I overall like the message. I do think there is such a thing as toxic masculinity. My only problem is the ad makes it seem like all men are toxic which is absolutely not the case.
Before I reply to ads, unless you are a part of toxic masculinity or a conservative leaning snowflake, I don't see the problem.
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Originally Posted by Catgirl64
I think it depends on how you interpret it.
If you see it as an attack on all men, it's bad. If you see what I saw - an ad praising men who do things like rejecting sexism and bullying, and who try to break up needless fights - it's pretty good.
I like the message. I'm not sure I fully endorse the messenger.
Exactly. I see it as an attack on the macho men and chaunavist pig. As stated before, if you are a snowflake about it or someone who don't want to admit they are guilty that is the problem.
I don't mind the messenger but they should realized the semantics of doing that while getting criticized for the pink tax.
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Originally Posted by Luciano700
I think the problem with the theme is how men have to be placed into a box of being a hero vs being an *******, basically men have to be servers to society one way or the other, if you reject serving society you're basically worthless to society
Even I tried looking at both sides before just sliding with the haters crowd hahahaha.
Also sexism exists against men as well, not sure why people try to make it so much a one sided issue
I don't always jump in into the fight but I don't try to start any.
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Originally Posted by Chango
The subconscious message was pretty clear: Fight toxic masculinity by shaving with Gillette razors.
Their execs must cry themselves to sleep every night now that beards are so popular.
OK so that I guess is the same as Coca-Cola's famous "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" selling equality and world peace by drinking a nice cold Coke? Or is that ad fine because it didn't push a political agenda as overtly as the ad from Gillette?
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Originally Posted by Luciano700
I like how everyone tried to racialize the ad, but don't realize that is a manipulation tactic. If a male feminist can be thrown under the bus like the one who committed suicide just recently, why would other men not be just as at risk?
The only way it is in fact racial is based on who typically use Gillette razors for men, white men. For whatever reason African-American/Black men from what I know (talking razor groups and even fragcom since they inteerect) fall into beards men who trim with scissors, electric razors or use double edge and straight razors. This is due to more curly hair which cause razor burn. Notice most razor burn products are marketed towards African-American males.
I overall like the message. I do think there is such a thing as toxic masculinity. My only problem is the ad makes it seem like all men are toxic which is absolutely not the case.
The black guy was definitely wrong in my view. I guess you could call that "toxic" whatever that means.
I don't think I was watching the same ad as everyone else at this point.
Name the specific segments of the ad that you disagreed with and why ?
Do you think " cat calling" is ok ?
Physically attacking men who don't fit your definition of masculinity ?
Again, what portion of the ad did you disagree with ?
I have a problem with the hypocrisy.
Pretending that women don't cat call, or attack other women that don't fit a definition of a certain behavior.
Acting as if ALL men are bullies. As if ALL men encourage their sons to fight, and harass women. As if ONLY men can stop the harassment and bullying. Not once is it shown where a woman steps in. Isn't that sexist in itself?
Before I reply to ads, unless you are a part of toxic masculinity or a conservative leaning snowflake, I don't see the problem.
No such thing.
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