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Old 01-30-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Intolerant liberals. They want to throw out due process and if you disagree with them you must be some kind of monster.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...hanges-1128597



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“F--- you Betsy,” reads one comment.
"DeVos is a traitor to women everywhere," another wrote. One chimed in with: "Ms DeVos: for the good of ALL women: PLEASE RESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
As of Friday, there were nearly 72,000 comments on the Education Department’s proposed rule. The proposal is controversial, viewed by critics as DeVos doing Trump's bidding to protect offenders of sexual harassment, pointing to such accusations against the president. The comments are peppered with references to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, whose nomination was nearly tanked by sexual assault allegations.

But I think some of these people go beyond intolerant. They seem like tin foil hat people.


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"If you think the American people don't fully recognize that this is sanctioned sabotage by Russia and an intentional attack on the American educational system ... you are crazy."
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Where are the details of the actual proposal? Did I miss them somewhere in that article?
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Where are the details of the actual proposal? Did I miss them somewhere in that article?
This is the gov doc on it https://www.regulations.gov/document...-OCR-0064-0001
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:09 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Yeah, found it in the article at the link talking about the comments it spurred. Ooof, I'm not reading through all of that. I'd need someone who understands the existing guidance to compare the important changes in a bit plainer English. My eyes quickly glazed over trying to decipher that doc.
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Old 01-30-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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Yeah, found it in the article at the link talking about the comments it spurred. Ooof, I'm not reading through all of that. I'd need someone who understands the existing guidance to compare the important changes in a bit plainer English. My eyes quickly glazed over trying to decipher that doc.
Here's the summary:


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The Secretary of Education proposes to amend regulations implementing Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (Title IX). The proposed regulations would clarify and modify Title IX regulatory requirements pertaining to the availability of remedies for violations, the effect of Constitutional protections, the designation of a coordinator to address sex discrimination issues, the dissemination of a nondiscrimination policy, the adoption of grievance procedures, and the process to claim a religious exemption. The proposed regulations would also specify how recipient schools and institutions covered by Title IX (hereinafter collectively referred to as recipients or schools) must respond to incidents of sexual harassment consistent with Title IX's prohibition against sex discrimination. The proposed regulations are intended to promote the purpose of Title IX by requiring recipients to address sexual harassment, assisting and protecting victims of sexual harassment and ensuring that due process protections are in place for individuals accused of sexual harassment.

It's due process that's under attack.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Yes, I read the Summary and the Executive Summary, both.

They don't highlight what the major changes are, and the implications of those changes, in any sort of real detail.

So your argument is that there is no due process currently?
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Old 01-30-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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Yes, I read the Summary and the Executive Summary, both.

They don't highlight what the major changes are, and the implications of those changes, in any sort of real detail.

So your argument is that there is no due process currently?
That's been well publicized.

Doing Things Right: Betsy DeVos, Title IX And Due Process

https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard.../#7be76f031633
Do The Proposed Title IX Changes Protect The Accused, Or Hurt Accusers? Two Lawyers Weigh In
https://www.cpr.org/news/story/do-th...rs-two-lawyers

Betsy DeVos Stands Up for Due Process Rights in Campus Sexual Assault Cases
https://www.heritage.org/education/c...-assault-cases


Glenn Reynolds: A war on college men

Jared Polis’ idea to deprive college men of due process highlights toxic campus culture of discrimination against men.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...lumn/72209292/
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