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Old 01-30-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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A financial abortion (also known as a paper abortion or a statutory abort) would essentially enable men to cut all financial and emotional ties with a child in the early stages of pregnancy.
This means he would opt out of all rights, privileges and responsibilities of parenthood in a binding and not reversible decision, similar to sperm donors.


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I believe a woman should not be forced to become a mother any more than a man should be forced to become a father. If a man has not said, "I want to have a child with you now-ish", it is fair to assume he doesn't, and therefore should be able to legally withdraw from becoming a parent.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-...nthood/8049576
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Old 01-30-2019, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Only if mothers have the same option to walk away and leave the child with the father. Good for the goose good for the gander type deal.


Essentially no. It takes two people to make a child, you don't get a free pass by just having a penis. If it's that unwanted, perhaps abortion is an option.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Only if mothers have the same option to walk away and leave the child with the father. Good for the goose good for the gander type deal.


Essentially no. It takes two people to make a child, you don't get a free pass by just having a penis. If it's that unwanted, perhaps abortion is an option.
this^ most get out of it anyway. they never pay child support...……….
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Financial abortion: Should men be able to 'opt out' of parenthood?

NO! Men take care of their responsibility. If you don't, you are not a man and not worth a crap. A spineless, useless, waste of carbon and air.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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Ideally yes, but it would be hard to set up in practicality since that would require some legal document the man forfeited his rights while the mother is pregnant.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Why can't consenting adults sort this out on their own without the government?

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Old 01-30-2019, 03:36 PM
 
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This is a very unlikely case but here is where a man could opt: If he is drunk/drugged and the woman rapes him to the point where she gets impregnated. Now, whether or not that man feels a moral obligation to care for the child is on him.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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Only if mothers have the same option to walk away and leave the child with the father. Good for the goose good for the gander type deal.


Essentially no. It takes two people to make a child, you don't get a free pass by just having a penis. If it's that unwanted, perhaps abortion is an option.
It doesn't seem to be an option for a man. I've yet to see a man have an abortion.
We might look at the OP's idea a little closer and call it the man abortion and where no one has to die is a plus.

The woman can abort with the man having no voice in it, or she can opt for and decide adoption. If the man is an equal partner in the pregnancy he should have some options also and not treated as a fence post or a bank account.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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This is a very unlikely case but here is where a man could opt: If he is drunk/drugged and the woman rapes him to the point where she gets impregnated. Now, whether or not that man feels a moral obligation to care for the child is on him.
Why can't a man morally say he doesn't want financially responsibility for the child? If the woman doesn't want the child anymore she can abort, a man has no such option. I think financial abortion is the moral solution albeit it won't work in practice.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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This is interesting. As a guy, I would never abandon my responsibilities. Not even a thought or question for me. However, what if in my younger days, I had gotten some young lady pregnant, and she did not want the baby, but I did. As the man, i would not have any say in the matter, she could legally have an abortion against my wishes, even if I was offering to take the baby and raise the child without any help from her or her family.

I find it funny that some people say men have no say over what a woman does with her body but he is the one on the hook for paying for the child, whether he wants it or not, if she decides to keep it, but has no say in whether the baby is kept or not.

I am not expert on abortion laws, so, if a couple is married, does it give the man more of a right to stop an abortion?
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