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A better label to use is 'collectivist.' Fascism was a collectivist variant, as was socialism. Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production; fascism allows private ownership of the means of production, but with heavy regulation thereof. If the regulation is sufficiently heavy, 'private ownership' becomes a legal fiction, and fascism morphs into socialism.
A better label to use is 'collectivist.' Fascism was a collectivist variant, as was socialism. Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production; fascism is private ownership of the means of production, but with heavy regulation thereof. If the regulation is sufficiently heavy, 'private ownership' becomes a legal fiction, and fascism morphs into socialism.
That’s some pretzel-logic you’re trying to pass off as fact. Fascism cannot directly “morph into socialism”.
They might share a tenet or two, but they’re on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
It's actually highly relevant, as the confiscation of private property, assets, and guns has only be undertaken by left-wing fascist or totalitarian regimes, shortly before they executed 100+ millions in the 20th century, alone, via democide.
I already posted the origin of the term, fascism. Mussolini, who originated the term, very succinctly described fascism as the subjugation of the individual for the benefit of the collective society. That describes exactly what Hitler and the Nazis did.
The Nazis did exactly as you’ve stated. Try again, with less feigned ignorance.
Also, how kind of you to alter my post when responding, a direct TOS violation.
No, it isn't. In fact, the moderators will tell you to snip a quoted posd to only that to which you are replying to avoid cluttering up the board and/or creating a tl;dr situation.
It's actually highly relevant, as the confiscation of private property, assets, and guns has only be undertaken by left-wing fascist or totalitarian regimes, shortly before they executed 100+ millions in the 20th century, alone, via democide.
I already posted the origin of the term, fascism. Mussolini, who originated the term, very succinctly described fascism as the subjugation of the individual for the benefit of the collective society. That describes exactly what Hitler and the Nazis did.
Yet you keep conflating the two terms, on purpose. Here’s what your dear leader had to say about Nazi’s and their position as right-wing fascists::
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We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people.
No, it isn't. In fact, the moderators will tell you to snip a quoted posd to only that to which you are replying to avoid cluttering up the board and/or creating a tl;dr situation.
No, they won’t. You edited a single sentence to change it’s intention and meaning.
That’s some pretzel-logic you’re trying to pass off as fact. Fascism cannot directly “morph into socialism”.
They might share a tenet or two, but they’re on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Fascism is antithetical to socialism, full stop.
Where did I say anything about 'fact.' These are just common English words with common definitions. Socialism is the collective (in practice, usually gov't) ownership of the means of production, and fascism is private ownership of the means of production, but with heavy regulation thereof. The latter is according to Mussolini, who coined the term 'fascism.' Where do you disagree with those definitions?
Where did I say anything about 'fact.' These are just common English words with common definitions. Socialism is the collective (in practice, usually gov't) ownership of the means of production, and fascism is private ownership of the means of production, but with heavy regulation thereof. The latter is according to Mussolini, who coined the term 'fascism.' Where do you disagree with those definitions?
Don’t worry, I inherently don’t take any of your assertments as fact by default, but am well aware of your intentions to pass them off as such.
I'm not worried. I'm well aware to your claim to be able to read minds and motives over the web.
Do you have any response to the substance of what I posted?
Lol. To paraphrase the internet, obvious xxxxx is obvious, no mind reading necessary.
You do realize (of course you do, you’re engaged in the same tactics) Mussolini was an agent provocateur who posed as a socialist writer for years, to establish plausible deniability?
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