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Old 01-31-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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They're gonna drive trucks through areas with no roads?
You can't be serious with this question. Well...the answer is "yes". Things like that happen everyday.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The people who live along the border, including law enforcement, don’t want the wall. That should be the end of it.
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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The people who live along the border, including law enforcement, don’t want the wall. That should be the end of it.
Nope. The BP wants barriers in some places, as well as technology in other places.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/40...ssist-securing

Stop lying
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:19 PM
 
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2 milligrams of Fentanyl is considered a lethal dose, how many drones will it take to meet demand? And no silly wall's gonna stop them.
Believe it or not drones don't fly through walls.

Isn't that what the technology the Dems want is for ? Or is that pie in the sky ?
They are for everything on tech. saying that's the answer to everything.
The smart wall that works they say. But now you seem to be saying they are BS everyone.
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nope. The BP wants barriers in some places, as well as technology in other places.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/40...ssist-securing

Stop lying
Everything has a price.

Given they ain’t making anymore borderland, it’s a seller’s market.

Too bad the Trump Admin has not released a plan for the wall. No price investor would consider investing $ billions in something as loosey- goosey as the Trump Wall. Yet, it seems Trump expects Congress to do so.

Guess it’s easier to blamethrow at Democrat’s than to do his job.

Where’s the plan?
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:31 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Believe it or not drones don't fly through walls.
The point is they go OVER walls, you genius...
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:50 PM
 
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Yeas! Border Agents at work!!! Awesome Americans getting it done!!!
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:25 PM
 
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Everything has a price.

Given they ain’t making anymore borderland, it’s a seller’s market.

Too bad the Trump Admin has not released a plan for the wall. No price investor would consider investing $ billions in something as loosey- goosey as the Trump Wall. Yet, it seems Trump expects Congress to do so.

Guess it’s easier to blamethrow at Democrat’s than to do his job.

Where’s the plan?
Where's the plan when we give billions in aid to third world countries? The aid we give ends up in the pockets of the corrupt oligarchy, yet we continue to throw billions at them. Why don't you demand a plan from those countries before they get their aid?

You do know much of the planning comes once the money is there. It takes money to research where barriers should be placed. Don't be so disingenuous.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:32 PM
 
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Let's look where the bust occurred.

https://www.alamy.com/aerial-view-of...e62847469.html

Whats that? Opps? Could it be. It's a big wall. And that wall forced that truck through a check point so it could be checked.

OP just proved the need for walls. Imagine if it had not been there. That truck could have come through on any of those streets.

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This is hardly rocket science. Someone decided to put the drugs on the truck heading to the walls and the check point. The wall in the absolute did not stop the drugs. It was the check point process.

Walls are functional in urban areas. The first in San Diego were built during the Clinton administration with more footage during the Bush and Obama administrations. Trump's added more footage yet - with high priority given to cities (and the associated checkpoint).

There is absolutely no call by anyone anywhere to remove urban walls as unnecessary.

The DEA keeps track of drug distribution patterns. Concealment (in traffic) is the technique of choice not lone runs across the desert (dodging drones and the BP or skirting the vehicular fencing that Trump decries as inadequate). Any image that some may hold of mules trekking over the hills is largely imagined. The vast majority of drugs come thru the POEs in concealed compartments in cars on intermingled in goods shipped on trucks. Commercial airlines are a major avenue. Marijuana is about the only drug that's transported in bulk between POEs. Cross-border traffic is down due to increasing US legalization. Customers now buy marijuana in California to ship it to Mexico.

Another factor is that drugs are not fungible with cartels handling certain products with established distribution networks that are specific to regions. Drugs just don't float all over the place.

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Kind hard to get a truck full of fentanyl over a wall with a latter.

This bust proves that Trump's statements about walls work.
It's not a matter of it being hard or not. But who would want to offload fentanyl when there are nice roads? As already pointed out, fentanyl is high-potency. It's actually dangerous to transport. Fentanyl's not going to go flying over a wall nor is it going to be hand-carried by mules. The high-quality product typically arrives well-packaged by mail directly from China or thru Canada from China. Larger volumes of less-valuable product are shipped in by truck - through the POEs.

Drugs are nice and quiet and don't need fed or toileted. They do just fine in little boxes or in the mail. People not so much. Human beings with legs do tend to wander out into the deserts to cross. At which point whether non-urban walls are cost-efficient to stop them is a whole different discussion.

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Old 01-31-2019, 11:51 PM
 
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Statistics would indicate that a large majority of CONFISCATED drugs come through ports of entry.

Who would confiscate drugs in the middle of nowhere, away from a port of entry?

Would drug smugglers be certain to only cross the border at legal posts of entry? Really?
The Border Patrol has this habit of searching those it stops who cross illegally. Trust me, they would notice.
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