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Old 04-08-2008, 09:17 PM
 
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Also, I have to say, I don't think that by defunding PP of our tax dollars they will go out of business..
No, they wouldn't go out of business, but they would have to cut back drastically on the family planning and health programs that, among other things, help women to avoid the unwanted pregnancies that lead in high numbers to decisions to abort. PP does more in one year to reduce the number of abortions in this country than all of the abstinence-only sex-ed courses ever taught.

 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:21 PM
 
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I will not stoop to the assignation of character that seems to be ok with some proponents of this issue...

How many people in America are waiting on an adoption list somewhere, and adopting in other countries because there just aren't enough babies here?

264,943 abortions, attained a high profit of $55.8 million doesn't really look like a small portion to me...
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I will not stoop to the assignation of character that seems to be ok with some proponents of this issue...

How many people in America are waiting on an adoption list somewhere, and adopting in other countries because there just aren't enough babies here?

264,943 abortions, attained a high profit of $55.8 million doesn't really look like a small portion to me...

You seem to have an indifference to folks who are severely handicapped, be as dismissive as you want.

I'm glad to have funded them with our medicaid dollars, and gladly wrote a supplemental check for my appreciation of their continued service to our community.

Fortunately, in California they continue to have very strong support.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:27 PM
 
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No, they wouldn't go out of business, but they would have to cut back drastically on the family planning and health programs that, among other things, help women to avoid the unwanted pregnancies that lead in high numbers to decisions to abort. PP does more in one year to reduce the number of abortions in this country than all of the abstinence-only sex-ed courses ever taught.
Oh really? What was the stance before PP's inception? Abstinence only.... ? And what has the number of unwanted pregnancies done since their inception and sex ed????? A steady incline.

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Old 04-08-2008, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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. PP does more in one year to reduce the number of abortions in this country than all of the abstinence-only sex-ed courses ever taught.
That is a disgraceful falsehood.

Planned Parenthood Reports Record Abortions, High Profits -- 06/15/2007 (broken link)

During its 2005-2006 fiscal year, the nonprofit Planned Parenthood Federation of America performed a record 264,943 abortions, attained a high profit of $55.8 million and received record taxpayer funding of $305.3 million.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, noted that while the PPFA reported carrying out a record number of abortions in 2005-2006, it "did not record a single adoption referral."

In the previous year, PPFA reported 1,414 adoption referrals, which Sedlak said amounted to one adoption for every 180 abortions.

The fact that the organization chose not to release a number for adoptions in the latest fiscal year, he said, meant that "we can only assume the number was so low that Planned Parenthood didn't want to embarrass itself by revealing it."

"You will not find the word 'adoption' anywhere in the PPFA's 2005-2006 Annual Report," Scott observed
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:33 PM
 
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I will not stoop to the assignation of character that seems to be ok with some proponents of this issue...

How many people in America are waiting on an adoption list somewhere, and adopting in other countries because there just aren't enough babies here?

264,943 abortions, attained a high profit of $55.8 million doesn't really look like a small portion to me...
Big deal, the subject funding is for other services beyond abortions.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:35 PM
 
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You seem to have an indifference to folks who are severely handicapped, be as dismissive as you want.

I'm glad to have funded them with our medicaid dollars, and gladly wrote a supplemental check for my appreciation of their continued service to our community.

Fortunately, in California they continue to have very strong support.
Well, that explains it. CA is very liberal in a lot of the issues that outrage the rest of the country.

I do not have an indifference to anyone who needs actual medical attention. If PP wasn't the largest abortion provider, I would say that they have a right to the federal funding. But since they are, and they think they are above the law when it comes to parental notification regarding under aged medical notification, and even notification to officials regarding the cases of incest and juvenile rape, I should be allowed to deny them my tax dollars.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:35 PM
 
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Big deal, the subject funding is for other services beyond abortions.
264,943 abortions.

A quarter of a million dead babies.

Yes, big deal. Very big deal.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:38 PM
 
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264,943 abortions.

A quarter of a million dead babies.

Yes, big deal. Very big deal.
The federal government doesn't fund abortions, nor does medicaid. You are mixing the issues, again.
 
Old 04-08-2008, 09:40 PM
 
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264,943 abortions.

A quarter of a million dead babies.

Yes, big deal. Very big deal.
I don't think they get it... babies that were born inspite of abortions and left in laundry rooms to die? When the school can't even give my kids an asprin w/o parental consent and PP does invasive procedures on kids as young as 12 w/o so much as telling the parents. Who has to deal with the aftermath of such a decision? THE PARENTS!!

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