The Truth About Being a Black Woman in a Liberal City (Austin) (crimes, versus)

[cBach]

Originally Posted by beaste

So my experience here dating being a tall successful black man is interesting. I personally have dated outside of my race (latina, white) but have dated black women. I have been successful because I am charismatic for the most part (lol) and an extroverted person. With that said I do find myself having to grind and put myself out there here. I have secured dates with successful, attractive women but encounter a lot of flakes.

Even still sometimes I know my "brand" isn't always what people want. I have been the type of black man that some women will "try" because they haven't dated black men or have limited experience. It is also funny that I am competing with hipster white dudes for the same dating space.

I would align more politically libertarian and clean cut so I know I don't mess with some of the hippie chicks here. I feel like I need to be some sort of black caricature to be more appealing but that isn't my style.

I feel Hispanic men have a better chance b/c I think Mexican culture is, in some respects, fetishized here. My Asian friend who I find very good looking does pretty well but he has echoed some struggles of dating as a minority in a white area and being clean cut as well.

I would still think I would have more success in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, or DC.

The women that are "trying" you out want to know if what they say about black men is true.

Why is it surprising you're competing with hipster white men? Aren't you their same age?

I don't understand why Mexican culture is "fetishized?" That makes no sense. Yes we like Mexican food but that's because it's so darn tasty. Can you explain?

I do agree that blacks would have more success in bigger cities.

[Austin97]

Originally Posted by supfromthesite

Are prices racist now?

They are if they are a result of zoning that prevents additional inventory to be created that would be more affordable.

Zoning was originally created to as a way to drive segregation (NYC)

[Frustratedintelligence]

Originally Posted by Seguinite

Excellent post. It seems like nowadays everyone that considers themselves a member of a 'minority group' (black, Hispanic, women, LGBTQ, etc) spends a lot of time looking for trouble that may or not be there.

"Everyone"? You have absolutely no basis for that statement. Stop watching fake news, maybe.

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by Austin97

They are if they are a result of zoning that prevents additional inventory to be created that would be more affordable.

Zoning was originally created to as a way to drive segregation (NYC)

Hi Austin97--
Just in case you're confused about the part of the thread that your comment is in response to, please review.


ashbeeigh:
Did you read the part of her article that discussed pushing minorities to the east side?

AguaDulce:
That's history. The city is not pushing minorities to the east side.

ashbeeigh:
But prices are.

supfromthesite:
Are prices racist now?

Austin97:
They are if they are a result of zoning that prevents additional inventory to be created that would be more affordable. Zoning was originally created to as a way to drive segregation (NYC).

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My point is that I'm confused by your post. I admit that I have a reading comprehension problem sometimes.

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[River City Rocky]

Originally Posted by beaste

I feel like San Antonio dating scene is due to the lack of eligible bachelors. SA is a socially conservative city in which many people marry/co habitate young. If you're a single man you will encounter a lot of single mothers.

What has been your issues with dating in San Antonio? I felt as a black man in SA that since I wasn't a "gringo" or a Latino that was from there I had a hard time. Austin dating has been far more successful for me because of it being such a transient city.

I think my issues have been the same as yours; I'm Latino but not from San Antonio and not Mexican (I'm from South America) so I think I'm having the same struggle as you did.

I feel like if you're anything that deviates from a Mexican-american from the area or white guy then the women here don't know what box to put you in and won't be interested in you. Like they're not really interested in dealing with people from different cultures.

I get the impression that Austin is more open to people from different walks of life in general. I do imagine that places like Houston, DC, etc would be even more so.

[Frustratedintelligence]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

I think my issues have been the same as yours; I'm Latino but not from San Antonio and not Mexican (I'm from South America) so I think I'm having the same struggle as you did.

I feel like if you're anything that deviates from a Mexican-american from the area or white guy then the women here don't know what box to put you in and won't be interested in you.

Don't know about that. I've seen more Black man + Hispanic woman couples there than could probably be found in any other city in America.

[beaste]

Originally Posted by cBach

The women that are "trying" you out want to know if what they say about black men is true.

Why is it surprising you're competing with hipster white men? Aren't you their same age?

I don't understand why Mexican culture is "fetishized?" That makes no sense. Yes we like Mexican food but that's because it's so darn tasty. Can you explain?

I do agree that blacks would have more success in bigger cities.

I've heard the fetishized thing before from Hispanics here. The prominence of dance like salsa and tango, the Tex Mex mixture and such. It's similar to the stereotype of Latin America culture being passionate. I could be wrong. Again I'm not Hispanic.

I'm not surprised about hipsters but it's just funny because I'm totally the opposite of that. I guess it goes back to my former statement of women wanting to "try" a black man out.

I will say though I've had dates with career women also that better align with my lifestyle.

[beaste]

Originally Posted by River City Rocky

I think my issues have been the same as yours; I'm Latino but not from San Antonio and not Mexican (I'm from South America) so I think I'm having the same struggle as you did.

I feel like if you're anything that deviates from a Mexican-american from the area or white guy then the women here don't know what box to put you in and won't be interested in you. Like they're not really interested in dealing with people from different cultures.

I get the impression that Austin is more open to people from different walks of life in general. I do imagine that places like Houston, DC, etc would be even more so.

I feel you brother. San Antonio never felt inclusive to me. I have described it to others as a big small town. I feel many people there only know what's within a 50 mile radius from them.

I have been criticized in person for trashing San Antonio but I don't know what people expect if they ask me of an honest assessment of my experience there.

[Austin97]

Originally Posted by AguaDulce

Hi Austin97--
Just in case you're confused about the part of the thread that your comment is in response to, please review.


ashbeeigh:
Did you read the part of her article that discussed pushing minorities to the east side?

AguaDulce:
That's history. The city is not pushing minorities to the east side.

ashbeeigh:
But prices are.

supfromthesite:
Are prices racist now?

Austin97:
They are if they are a result of zoning that prevents additional inventory to be created that would be more affordable. Zoning was originally created to as a way to drive segregation (NYC).

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My point is that I'm confused by your post. I admit that I have a reading comprehension problem sometimes.

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yes my point stands. Zoning was originally created as a tool to enforce segregation. Zoning restricted affordable housing since day 1. That same zoning in austin prevents density and directly causes our skyrocketing prices that keep minorities out of west side neighborhoods. That same zoning is causing prices to rise on the east side driving minorities out of the east side.

Many people dont understand the history of zoning and naively believe that prices are simply market driven and therefore cant be racist. High prices arent automatically racist, but when they are driven by govt restrictions on inventory, then they are.

replacing blocks of single family homes with row houses can triple or even quadruple inventory that are still compatible with families. Above that in density is the mixed use multifamily with retail on the ground floor and 4-6 stories of apartments above. Both of these modes are still human scale.

Here is an example of townhomes in the woodlands that are very nice. They are currently not possible in the vast majority of austin.

[AguaDulce]

Originally Posted by Austin97

yes my point stands. Zoning was originally created as a tool to enforce segregation. Zoning restricted affordable housing since day 1. That same zoning in austin prevents density and directly causes our skyrocketing prices that keep minorities out of west side neighborhoods. That same zoning is causing prices to rise on the east side driving minorities out of the east side.

Many people dont understand the history of zoning and naively believe that prices are simply market driven and therefore cant be racist. High prices arent automatically racist, but when they are driven by govt restrictions on inventory, then they are.

replacing blocks of single family homes with row houses can triple or even quadruple inventory that are still compatible with families. Above that in density is the mixed use multifamily with retail on the ground floor and 4-6 stories of apartments above. Both of these modes are still human scale.

Here is an example of townhomes in the woodlands that are very nice. They are currently not possible in the vast majority of austin.

I was confused because it seems like zoning in East Austin allows for multifamily units replacing single-family and is still far too expensive for most people because the market will bear the higher prices.