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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I only observed it while there, didn't actually live it while there, but it appeared that by a pretty young age, you had already mapped out your future by how well you had done up to that point. So, those who didn't do well.....they were probably going to be sitting there at that construction site, not in school to be a doctor. And considering how many I saw on breaks at those construction sites downing a beer, well, it's no wonder that maybe they weren't the best.
Germany is well.. Germany.
Quite a strict regiment, where they (I belive) are vetted for what they are good at quite the early age.
Not sure if its still like that. Or if people who didn't make the cut are able to advance to Medical or Law school.
It produces super efficient workers though.. We had a 2 locals and a German carpenter build our house last year... and I would say he was the most thorough and precise of the them all! He moved here because he loved the nature.. drove a French car though.. hmm
In most of Europe it was baked into their "contracts" that they where allowed beer in their breaks.
Here there is even a saying about a special kind of beer..
---> Stupidly translated but: "I´ll have a bricklayer." Special size of beer bottle, that where common for bricklayers to drink in their breaks.
Hell.. if you want to become a doctor really bad.. its possible to pay your way into it in another European country.
I have an Italian friend I meet at university as an exchange student in Medicine. He wanted to be a Doctor and when they told their classmates what they wanted to study after school (they where 17-18 or so) the teacher laughed at him and said he would not make it.
Well.. he took the national medical exams, got accepted and is now a Heart Surgeon.
Nothing is free. Look at the cost of living and taxes in Norway and Denmark and they only have 5 million people (each). In the U.S. we have over 340 million so the cost of living and taxes will be higher than Norway and Denmark to pay for the "free" stuff since we allow millions of poor people to enter the U.S.
Gasoline in Norway $6.96 a gallon (U.S. average is $2.98)
Toyota Corolla Comfort (Or Equivalent New Car) $33,000 in Norway (U.S is $18,000)
Volkswagen Golf Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) $36,400 Norway ( U.S is $18,500)
Milk is $7.85 in Norway $2.63 in the U.S
Eggs dozen: Norway is $4.47 U.S. is $1.84
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1 lb) Norway is $6.44 U.S $3.52
Beef Round (1 lb) (or Equivalent Back Leg Red Meat) Norway $12.38 U.S. $4.40
1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) Norway $98.58 U.S. $ 46
1 Pair of Nike Running Shoes (Mid-Range) Norway $ 113. U.S. $70
1 Pair of Men Leather Business Shoes Norway $154 U.S. $87
Denmark is about the same....they have a 25% sales tax and 55% income tax. The average monthly salary in those countries is $3,200.
once you tell the Americans how much taxes are going to go up and how high the cost of living will be the majority of Americans will reject it. Once you show the real numbers to the taxpayers we will realize that a massive government take over is not worth it.
When people no longer value individual choice and freedoms they willingly becomes slaves to the Master/Gov.
People who are poor or stupid usually having very few choices when it comes to freedom and liberty, especially when they are thrown in prison for being that way.
once you tell the Americans how much taxes are going to go up and how high the cost of living will be the majority of Americans will reject it. Once you show the real numbers to the taxpayers we will realize that a massive government take over is not worth it.
Average monthly salary here.. then you have overtime etc etc.
Taxation is 35-45%.
That pays for healthcare, education, medicine, defense, 5 weeks of paid vacation, one parent (they can chose who) gets to stay home 1 year after childbirth, guaranteed 66% of former salary if you get sick or can't work any longer, public pension, and lots and lots of other public goods.
However 50% of Americans live on $30.000 or less.
How much is healthcare?
30-40 Millions have no insurance.
500.000 medical bankruptcies each year.
45.000 dies each year due to lack of healthcare.
Last edited by Northman83; 02-08-2019 at 03:35 AM..
Taxation is 35-45%.
That pays for healthcare, education, medicine, defense, 5 weeks of paid vacation, one parent (they can chose who) gets to stay home 1 year after childbirth, guaranteed 66% of former salary if you get sick or can't work any longer, public pension, and lots and lots of other public goods.
However 50% of Americans live on $30.000 or less.
How much is healthcare?
30-40 Millions have no insurance.
500.000 medical bankruptcies each year.
45.000 dies each year due to lack of healthcare.
The USA doesn't compare to a tiny country (Norway) drowning in oil revenues. The EU has 180 million more people than the USA but the USA GDP is still $2 Trillion higher yearly than the entire EU.
If you're not man enough to leave your little country with its Trillions in oil revenue to prop up its population smaller than most USA states, then stay there.
Even with all of that oil revenue, the average financial wealth of Norwegains at $20K is only 12% of what the USA is at$176K....
Yes, I realize that with your oil revenue you don't have to work in Norway but a few hours per year but that wouldn't work in the USA with its population and demographics.
Whats scary is the Republican have no clue about this..
Todays youth see that the US is a far right experiment. All other western nations has a much better work/balance life, with larger safety nets and have not seen their wages stagnate for 40+ years.
Its the move to the right that has created this mess!
No when you Godless liberal now Democratic socialists took the Lords Prayer out of schools created this mess!
Funny you talk about balance of life because the American worker is the most productive with less time off than their European counter parts.My wages were not stagnate till 8 years of Obama!
Nothing is free. Look at the cost of living and taxes in Norway and Denmark and they only have 5 million people (each). In the U.S. we have over 340 million so the cost of living and taxes will be higher than Norway and Denmark to pay for the "free" stuff since we allow millions of poor people to enter the U.S.
Gasoline in Norway $6.96 a gallon (U.S. average is $2.98)
Toyota Corolla Comfort (Or Equivalent New Car) $33,000 in Norway (U.S is $18,000)
Volkswagen Golf Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) $36,400 Norway ( U.S is $18,500)
Milk is $7.85 in Norway $2.63 in the U.S
Eggs dozen: Norway is $4.47 U.S. is $1.84
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1 lb) Norway is $6.44 U.S $3.52
Beef Round (1 lb) (or Equivalent Back Leg Red Meat) Norway $12.38 U.S. $4.40
1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) Norway $98.58 U.S. $ 46
1 Pair of Nike Running Shoes (Mid-Range) Norway $ 113. U.S. $70
1 Pair of Men Leather Business Shoes Norway $154 U.S. $87
Denmark is about the same....they have a 25% sales tax and 55% income tax. The average monthly salary in those countries is $3,200.
once you tell the Americans how much taxes are going to go up and how high the cost of living will be the majority of Americans will reject it. Once you show the real numbers to the taxpayers we will realize that a massive government take over is not worth it.
I can see you telling yourself this is you suck back your Bud Light, or whatever you drink, on election night. But did you ever consider the possibility that the Americans will learn this too late?
At first socialism will sound good and it will have early successes. Leftist will relish in punishing conservatives by taking their property and perhaps even harming them in other ways. But then gradually, the kind of things you cite will creep up on everybody. And next thing you know we're going to be in a very bad situation. That's what happened in Venezuela and that's what will happen here.
I mean, I'm not saying. I'm just saying. Get out and vote. This threat is more real than you think.
Leftists love to hold up Northern European countries as shining examples, and not without reason. What they never seem to factor in, though, is the number of working people it takes to make a wide welfare system work. Those countries that they look up to have previously had more people 'making' than 'taking', but that's been changing the past few years.
It began as a stunt intended to prove that hardship and poverty still existed in this small, wealthy country, but it backfired badly. Visit a single mother of two on welfare, a liberal member of Parliament goaded a skeptical political opponent, see for yourself how hard it is.
It turned out, however, that life on welfare was not so hard. The 36-year-old single mother, given the pseudonym “Carina” in the news media, had more money to spend than many of the country’s full-time workers. All told, she was getting about $2,700 a month, and she had been on welfare since she was 16.....
But Denmark’s long-term outlook is troubling. The population is aging, and in many regions of the country people without jobs now outnumber those with them.
Some of that is a result of a depressed economy. But many experts say a more basic problem is the proportion of Danes who are not participating in the work force at all — be they dawdling university students, young pensioners or welfare recipients like Carina who lean on hefty government support.
“In the past, people never asked for help unless they needed it,” said Karen Haekkerup, the minister of social affairs and integration, who has been outspoken on the subject. “My grandmother was offered a pension and she was offended. She did not need it.
“But now people do not have that mentality. They think of these benefits as their rights. The rights have just expanded and expanded. And it has brought us a good quality of life. But now we need to go back to the rights and the duties. We all have to contribute.”
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