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Old 02-08-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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More pitiful deflection Don't you know when to fold 'em? Right wingers must make awful poker players.
This is gaslighting, taught in Moscow.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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"Every president going back 40+ years has released their tax returns"


And NONE of those were big business owners like Trump.


Apples and oranges!
Does the name Nelson Rockefeller ring a bell?

Conflicts of Interest and the President: Reviewing the State of Law in the Face of a Trump Presidency

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This is not the first time a business magnate has ascended to an executive office. In 1974, President Gerald Ford nominated Nelson A. Rockefeller for the office of the Vice President. Following Rockefeller’s nomination, there was a great deal of concern over “the public-policy implications of a nominee whose vast financial holdings touch many segments of the American economic system.” 2 Rockefeller’s business interests and finances were subjected to intense scrutiny, including two sets of Senate hearings in the fall of 1974 and an audit by the Joint Committee on Internal Revenue Taxation of his 1964–1973 federal income tax returns. ...
Conflicts of Interest and the President: Reviewing the State of Law in the Face of a Trump Presidency
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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More pitiful deflection Don't you know when to fold 'em? Right wingers must make awful poker players.
You ain't getting the tax records. Am I still deflecting?
I know Trump said you would. But you're not. Not ever. In fact, if Trump willingly forked over the returns, I would probably not vote for him again. If someone in congress can force him to turn them over, then let's do it; but so far no crime has been indicated and you ain't getting his returns.



If you want to go somewhere and start a poker game, then do it. Maybe you'll be good at it. Surely that will be more productive than nattering on about tax returns that you cannot get.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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It is an abuse of authority. Technically, an IRS employee cannot turn over someone's tax return to a third party unless that third party can prove they have a need to know.
Perhaps not any third party, but Congress is not just any third party.

According to a provision in the 1924 Internal Revenue Code, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee are authorized to request the president's--or indeed anyone's--tax returns from the IRS to conduct an investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/05/polit...rns/index.html
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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I'll sum up your response: "But but but they started it!"

I don't know who started it. You will point to how Republicans behaved under Obama, they will point to how Democrats behaved under Bush and the cycle will continue.

What I do know is you're being childish, now. Grow up. Act like an adult. In your name is "mom", is this the kind of lessons you teach your kids?
You know that we know that you know the level of vicious political persecution basically started by the Republicans under president Obama.

GOP's plot to obstruct Obama

They planned to block anything and everything that president would try to do, and we saw them in action.

Detailed in this book:
'Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the US House of Representatives' | Robert Draper

~~~

It is also why we had to pay for no less than eight separate committees looking into Benghazi (including a select committee), with at least thirty full hearings, all for nothing. Political persecution.

It is also why the Republicans launched a plot through Karl Rove's K street office to gerrymander the entire country, or as much of it as they could get away with.

It is also why the Republicans have been trying so hard (and in many cases succeeding) to throw thousands of legitimate voters off of the rolls.

It is why the first thing the Republicans tried to do in 2017 was to shut down the Office of Congressional Ethics.

So let's not start with that 'blame on both sides' crap. We all know what has been going on in the last decade. The 'Republican' party needs a name change.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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You ain't getting the tax records. Am I still deflecting?
I know Trump said you would. But you're not. Not ever. In fact, if Trump willingly forked over the returns, I would probably not vote for him again. If someone in congress can force him to turn them over, then let's do it; but so far no crime has been indicated and you ain't getting his returns.



If you want to go somewhere and start a poker game, then do it. Maybe you'll be good at it. Surely that will be more productive than nattering on about tax returns that you cannot get.
Would Trump have turned you, away and refused your money at his bogus university? What kind of sap supports a low-life like Trump? He is hiding his returns because they show what a racketeering thief he is and always has been...and you know it. Trump deserves to be exposed for the pile of excrement that he is.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Seriously? The GOP crooks liars and enablers of the king of lies cannot come up with a better tack than this? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Get rid of the lot of them. Treacherous corrupt slimeballs have infested the government.
My life as an American citizen and taxpayer would be so much better if they could just get those tax returns.

Especially since they've already been approved by the IRS.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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You know that we know that you know the level of vicious political persecution basically started by the Republicans under president Obama.

GOP's plot to obstruct Obama

They planned to block anything and everything that president would try to do, and we saw them in action.

Detailed in this book:
'Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the US House of Representatives' | Robert Draper

~~~

It is also why we had to pay for no less than eight separate committees looking into Benghazi (including a select committee), with at least thirty full hearings, all for nothing. Political persecution.

It is also why the Republicans launched a plot through Karl Rove's K street office to gerrymander the entire country, or as much of it as they could get away with.

It is also why the Republicans have been trying so hard (and in many cases succeeding) to throw thousands of legitimate voters off of the rolls.

It is why the first thing the Republicans tried to do in 2017 was to shut down the Office of Congressional Ethics.

So let's not start with that 'blame on both sides' crap. We all know what has been going on in the last decade. The 'Republican' party needs a name change.
So because Republicans are a big piece of ****, and they are, it's ok for Democrats to be a big piece of **** too?
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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If Obama had refused to show his tax returns, Trump and his birther base would have had a collective bout of the runs while chanting "Lock him up!"
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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"Every president going back 40+ years has released their tax returns"


And NONE of those were big business owners like Trump.


Apples and oranges!
Not true. The Bush Family had several business interests from oil and gas to owning a baseball team.
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