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Old 02-11-2019, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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So what you are saying is that Israel is indeed a rogue nation with nukes.
They are -- but no one ever mentions this! All I hear on the political TV talk shows is how Iran is a problem even though they have been abiding by the Nuclear Treaty which Trump has pulled out of. I don't think there is any pleasing the Israelis and why can't they treat Palestinians like human beings made in the image of God? How do they think God is please with all the horrors they have visited upon the Palestinians? Why do they think they are better than everyone else? When will they repent of this? They will never have peace until they make peace and admit the error of their ways. They are a bunch of spoiled rotten brats. (not all of them, but the right wingers).
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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They are -- but no one ever mentions this! All I hear on the political TV talk shows is how Iran is a problem even though they have been abiding by the Nuclear Treaty which Trump has pulled out of. I don't think there is any pleasing the Israelis and why can't they treat Palestinians like human beings made in the image of God? How do they think God is please with all the horrors they have visited upon the Palestinians? Why do they think they are better than everyone else? When will they repent of this? They will never have peace until they make peace and admit the error of their ways. They are a bunch of spoiled rotten brats. (not all of them, but the right wingers).
Why should the Israelis give the Palestinians any more than they have? Honestly they've shown great restraint in how they deal with them, considering that every Palestinian political body states that their end goal is the eradication of Israel and have supported terrorism against Israeli civilians time and again. The best thing for the Palestinians to do would be to strike a conciliatory tone with the Israelis and try their best to integrate into Israel's society, which is vastly superior to any that Palestine has had or ever will on its own, so that they can reap its benefits and join the 21st century.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:13 AM
 
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They are -- but no one ever mentions this! All I hear on the political TV talk shows is how Iran is a problem even though they have been abiding by the Nuclear Treaty which Trump has pulled out of. I don't think there is any pleasing the Israelis and why can't they treat Palestinians like human beings made in the image of God? How do they think God is please with all the horrors they have visited upon the Palestinians? Why do they think they are better than everyone else? When will they repent of this? They will never have peace until they make peace and admit the error of their ways. They are a bunch of spoiled rotten brats. (not all of them, but the right wingers).
Oh, the nerves! And this is from a citizen of a country that invaded dozens of countries in the last decades, killed millions of innocent people, butchered whole villages in Vietnam, enslaved whole populations, put its own citizens in camps because they are japanese origine.
In the whole israeli-palestinian conflict died less Arabs than Vietnamese in one month.

Even if Israel will get crazy it will not get even close to what this country did. So **** *** **** up.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:25 AM
 
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Anyone saying they'd like to see Syria and Iran get a nuke is advocating for the destruction of Israel - and is a full-blown (no pun intended) anti-Semite.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:33 AM
 
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Immoral is the one who complaints about Israel's nukes, that were never used and will be used only as a last resort, while his own country actually used nukes when the victory was few months ahead.
Hezbollah? I've been at that war, my battalion killed about 70 of them. We kicked their arses, and they stopped any aggression from Lebanon for the last 13 years.
1) Now you admitted you were a soldier, has Iran directly made any attacks on you in the last 20 years??
2) Before talking bad things about USA, dont you think they have helped you in dealing with Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad who are perceived threats to Isreal ?


Dont give that fox news "proxy war" hexbollah BS in lebanon and syria. You yourself admitted there is no aggression from lebanon which means no proxy war as well.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:45 AM
 
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Why should the Israelis give the Palestinians any more than they have? Honestly they've shown great restraint in how they deal with them, considering that every Palestinian political body states that their end goal is the eradication of Israel and have supported terrorism against Israeli civilians time and again. The best thing for the Palestinians to do would be to strike a conciliatory tone with the Israelis and try their best to integrate into Israel's society, which is vastly superior to any that Palestine has had or ever will on its own, so that they can reap its benefits and join the 21st century.
Racist post, not surprising. Palestinians are on their land. The land their fathers were on, the land their grandfathers were on so on.

For most Israeli Jews you go too far back in time, all their ancestors are somewhere in Europe. Israel is a creation of the UK, and then Cold War era politics. Now Israel is literally subsidized by the USA.

Let's take away all US funding and support and see how superior Israel stays to her neighbors. Let the US stop browbeating Iran, and Iran will come up with nuclear weapons in a couple years. Let's see what Israel does then.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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1) Now you admitted you were a soldier, has Iran directly made any attacks on you in the last 20 years??
2) Before talking bad things about USA, dont you think they have helped you in dealing with Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad who are perceived threats to Isreal ?


Dont give that fox news "proxy war" hexbollah BS in lebanon and syria. You yourself admitted there is no aggression from lebanon which means no proxy war as well.
1. Iran used Hezbollah as its proxy and attacked our cities in 2006. They are threatening us 24/7. Isn't it enough to be considered hostile and dangerous?

2. So what? It's not letting its citizens the moral right to bash Israel when their country performed such crimes.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:22 AM
 
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Racist post, not surprising. Palestinians are on their land. The land their fathers were on, the land their grandfathers were on so on.

For most Israeli Jews you go too far back in time, all their ancestors are somewhere in Europe. Israel is a creation of the UK, and then Cold War era politics. Now Israel is literally subsidized by the USA.

Let's take away all US funding and support and see how superior Israel stays to her neighbors. Let the US stop browbeating Iran, and Iran will come up with nuclear weapons in a couple years. Let's see what Israel does then.
USA aid is a payment for giving Egypt Sinai, so Egypt will come under western influence. It's about 3% of Israeli budget and can be spent almost only in USA, subsidizing american jobs in weaponry factories.

USA already had embargo on Israel in the 60-x and we were able to manage very well. If USA will stop the support, our hands will be untied and will do whenever we want.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Racist post, not surprising. Palestinians are on their land. The land their fathers were on, the land their grandfathers were on so on.

For most Israeli Jews you go too far back in time, all their ancestors are somewhere in Europe. Israel is a creation of the UK, and then Cold War era politics. Now Israel is literally subsidized by the USA.

Let's take away all US funding and support and see how superior Israel stays to her neighbors. Let the US stop browbeating Iran, and Iran will come up with nuclear weapons in a couple years. Let's see what Israel does then.

You know that money is not really a subside..It's more like a payoff to Al Capone. "Pay me or I'll blow up the world" We could take our support away and live with the results.......I'm OK either way

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Old 02-12-2019, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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USA aid is a payment for giving Egypt Sinai, so Egypt will come under western influence. It's about 3% of Israeli budget and can be spent almost only in USA, subsidizing american jobs in weaponry factories.

USA already had embargo on Israel in the 60-x and we were able to manage very well. If USA will stop the support, our hands will be untied and will do whenever we want.
And coming full circle to my theory that in October of 1973 after other embargoes against Israel along with the Soviets supplying their clients who were about to achieve their goal to split the nation that word went out to the world.

President Nixon sent supplies and major weapon systems from NATO war stocks while Chairmen Brezhnev thought even if they lose again Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Iran (a US client which did send troops with their Arab religious brothers) were probably safe.
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