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It was a loss. You intended to crush Hezbollah, and you could not do that. Hezbollah never had the capacity to invade Israel - this is changing the goal posts of the encounter.
I remember those days very well, including videos of crying IDF soldiers. The death toll between Hezbollah and IDF were almost at parity as well, which surprised everyone. Of course, propagandists in the Israeli government will claim victory just like America claimed victory in Vietnam.
If its against the people, then its not an equal war. Armies have rules of engagement , otherwise they can mow down protestors with tanks if they liked. Hizbollah or any other militant group that engages in freedom struggle do not have the manpower for a direct fight, but if they use the common people then its a war that never can be won by armies . For eg, Iraq, Kashmir etc. ( Or unless you are heartless like Putin/Russians and raze everything to ground like they did in Checchenya)
If its against the people, then its not an equal war. Armies have rules of engagement , otherwise they can mow down protestors with tanks if they liked. Hizbollah or any other militant group that engages in freedom struggle do not have the manpower for a direct fight, but if they use the common people then its a war that never can be won by armies . For eg, Iraq, Kashmir etc. ( Or unless you are heartless like Putin/Russians and raze everything to ground like they did in Checchenya)
Hezbollah fights under a flag, with a uniform etc. This is not just random civilians picking up kalashnikovs and shooting soldiers in the back. Hezbollah fought asymmetrically because they were outgunned and even outmanned but they fought fairly and were successful.
Crime of violence not sex. In some parts of the world by socially making the rape victim unable to be a mother because of her status it becomes a genocidal war weapon.
For the American Vietnam War specifically there was the Michael J. Fox movie based upon a true incident The Casualties of War. Incident on Hill 192 in 1966
and thats indicative of the over 2 million soldiers who served in that war in theatre......
So tiny Israel is going to have a real big war on her hands. The problem is that Israel might be forced to use nuclear weapons. But if Israel would use nukes the reaction around the world would be unpredictable. So it would be a big risk but one she might have to take. That's the problem through Israelis eye
I hope Israel is done with considering "world opinion." The world's opinion is that Jews, and Israel, should be dead.
It was a loss. You intended to crush Hezbollah, and you could not do that. Hezbollah never had the capacity to invade Israel - this is changing the goal posts of the encounter.
I remember those days very well, including videos of crying IDF soldiers. The death toll between Hezbollah and IDF were almost at parity as well, which surprised everyone. Of course, propagandists in the Israeli government will claim victory just like America claimed victory in Vietnam.
Crying soldiers is a sign of strength, not of weakness. That what Arabs cannot understand. They are pretend to be strong but are crushed inside.
The real goals were not crushing Hezbollah. It that was the goal - Israel would enter Lebanon with full power and not with 3 divisions that were hold with super short leash.
The goal achieved. They are not firing anymore despite all of their big mouth.
And if it was a win for Hezbollah, why their leader said that if he knew the results, he will never start a war?
"We did not think, even one percent, that the capture would lead to a war at this time and of this magnitude. You ask me, if I had known on July 11 ... that the operation would lead to such a war, would I do it? I say no, absolutely not," he said in an interview with Lebanon's New TV station." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nasrallah-if-i-had-known/
Crying soldiers is a sign of strength, not of weakness. That what Arabs cannot understand. They are pretend to be strong but are crushed inside.
The real goals were not crushing Hezbollah. It that was the goal - Israel would enter Lebanon with full power and not with 3 divisions that were hold with super short leash.
The goal achieved. They are not firing anymore despite all of their big mouth.
And if it was a win for Hezbollah, why their leader said that if he knew the results, he will never start a war?
"We did not think, even one percent, that the capture would lead to a war at this time and of this magnitude. You ask me, if I had known on July 11 ... that the operation would lead to such a war, would I do it? I say no, absolutely not," he said in an interview with Lebanon's New TV station." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nasrallah-if-i-had-known/
Yes, this is why Nasrallah was lionized everywhere while Olmert's popularity rating fell to almost 0% and calls were made for him to resign all over your country (and then he resigned). Who do you think you're talking to? You can lie with a straight face to people on this forum who know nothing about anything, but not to me. You lost. You cried. Get over it.
I hope Israel is done with considering "world opinion." The world's opinion is that Jews, and Israel, should be dead.
The world's opinion is that Jews should be dead has been that way for over 1700 years. No one expected Israel to actually win the war in 1948. Israel always has always had it's back against the wall and "world opinion" really means nothing. Israel does what it does to exist on a daily basis. The "world opinion" has numerous talking heads, but in reality have done nothing to affect Israel.
The world's opinion is that Jews should be dead has been that way for over 1700 years. No one expected Israel to actually win the war in 1948. Israel always has always had it's back against the wall and "world opinion" really means nothing. Israel does what it does to exist on a daily basis. The "world opinion" has numerous talking heads, but in reality have done nothing to affect Israel.
On that one, I think you hit the nail on the head. Israel was forcibly disarmed prior to the 1948 war, where is the Arab countries were steadily armed. Great Britain's post war bankruptcy was what made the relinquishment of the post-WWI Palestine mandate necessary. The Jews in that area were more advanced, and were able to make do without the equivalent resources of the Arabs. Israel's success shows that a mixture of education, organization, and perhaps the sprinkling of divine influence can overcome other factors.
Besides, would you give your life to save Israel? I know damn well that I won’t.
... but the men and women who joined the U.S. military will.
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