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Old 02-13-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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This is right out of LA P&W IRP..

https://www.ladwp.com/ladwp/faces/la...41968628943362

Challenges to ensuring continued reliable electric service include replacement of aging generation
facilities, integration of intermittent renewable energy resources, and replacement of, or
installation of new equipment and technologies related to generation, transmission, distribution,
and substations.
To maintain grid reliability, LADWP’s 2017 Ten-Year Transmission Assessment Plan has
identified a number of necessary improvements that are needed to avoid potential overloads on
key segments of the transmission system. These overload conditions, if encountered, could require
load shedding events (intentional power outages) as a means to protect the overall electric system.
The integration of renewable energy into the grid poses major reliability challenges. Because
renewable resources like wind and solar produce electricity variably and intermittently
(i.e., only
when the wind is blowing or when the sun is shining), integration of these resources requires
additional supplemental generating units to compensate for significant and often rapid swings in
energy production. These swings present operational challenges and must be balanced by
controllable generation capable of equally rapid changes of generation in the opposite direction
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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lol............
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Sometimes you have to be the one to take the lead on things. Sometimes bold moves are called for. We had absolutely no idea how to get to the moon when Kennedy said that is what we would do.

Do I wish he had better specifics on his plans going forward? I do. While I support the idea of moving towards cleaner energy sources, I am also wanting for more specifics.
I think the Captain of the Titanic said the same thing.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Is this Garcetti's way of trying to get the Federal government to come in and foot the bill for the rebuilding of these power plants? I can't see the Federal government letting the lights go out in California.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:48 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Well, let's see, what will happen if Garcetti gets this New Green (Yellow) Deal started in the City of Angels? I see the following things happening:

In-N-Out will close its L.A. locations.

LAX will no longer have any flight business, forcing connections to Honolulu to go through Phoenix or San Francisco.

More people will be out on the streets because cars will be banned.

There will be more violence because people won't have jobs anymore.


Gosh, being a Californian is going to get even more depressing. I'm thanking my stars I'm a Texan.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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Garcetti should've declared LA a gasoline free area if he truly wanted to make an actual impact.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Well, let's see, what will happen if Garcetti gets this New Green (Yellow) Deal started in the City of Angels? I see the following things happening:

In-N-Out will close its L.A. locations.

LAX will no longer have any flight business, forcing connections to Honolulu to go through Phoenix or San Francisco.

More people will be out on the streets because cars will be banned.

There will be more violence because people won't have jobs anymore.


Gosh, being a Californian is going to get even more depressing. I'm thanking my stars I'm a Texan.
At this point, we have to pray for the big one to hit and swallow that God forsaken state and it's people into the sea.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Is this Garcetti's way of trying to get the Federal government to come in and foot the bill for the rebuilding of these power plants? I can't see the Federal government letting the lights go out in California.
How is it the Fed's responsibility? LA has a MUNICIPAL Utility owned by the people they serve.. If they want to wreck it more power to them
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Davis

"On January 17, 2001, Davis declared a state of emergency in response to the electricity crisis. Speculators, led by Enron Corporation, were collectively making large profits while the state teetered on the edge for weeks and finally suffered rolling blackouts on January 17 and 18.[47] Davis stepped in to buy power at highly unfavorable terms on the open market, since the California power companies were technically bankrupt and had no buying power. California agreed to pay $43 billion for power over the next 20 years.[47] Newspaper publishers sued Davis to force him to make public the details of the energy deal."
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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Plunge them into darkness !!! Make them the cave dwellers they want to be !!!
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