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You misstate the situation when you use the term "coup" in your thread's title. McCabe and others discussed the possibility of using the 25th Amendment to the Constitution - quite legally and obviously constitutionally - because they were extremely concerned about Trump's fitness to be in office as the President of the United States. This is far different from a coup, which is an illegal overthrow of government, usually by force.
Which is what Trump and his Republicans have been doing since day 1.
I highly recommend Adolf Hitler by John Toland, Vol. 1 & 2.
The bolded I just had to shake my head at and laugh.
Kaiser Wilhelm also shared many of Trump's negative characteristics, much to the dismay of his far more intelligent and stable parents (plus Chancellor Otto Von Bismarck and many other contemporaries, both German and non-German).
"Fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s book tour began with a “60 minutes†interview this week in which he confirmed that he commenced an effort to remove President Trump from office, citing his concerns with the president’s supposed ties to Russia, for which no evidence has ever surfaced."
Andrew McCabe was far from the only FBI official to disgrace himself. Other now-fired FBI officials, such as James Comey and Peter Strzok, helped transform the FBI into a political weapon to sabotage the president through the baseless Trump-Russia investigation. There are still only two primary explanations for their conduct. The first is they were simply incompetent and commenced a probe without sufficient nonpartisan evidence. The second and more likely explanation is that McCabe and his cohorts were on a hell-bent quest to overturn the results of the election. Call it what it was: a soft coup attempt. Luckily for our republic, the coup attempt failed."
Hard to believe this could happen in our country. How would the media act if the Obama administration was treated this way?
Really? Using the 25th Amendment is a "coup"? Does this mean the Constitution is unconstitutional...?
No, it means pretending that that Constitutional provision applies when it doesn't is one way to do a coup. And you know that.
Can't any of you read?
The Constitutional provision is clear...
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Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
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The people who wrote the amendment were reasonably smart and quite clearly and deliberately left the rational for recalling the President up to his direct staff.
Basically the President can be recalled anytime his cabinet decides to do so. And in my mind that is a perfectly resonable standard. If you cannot trust your own selected staff you should not have the job.
The other way is impeachment. But that is a political process with a different set of rules.
No, it means pretending that that Constitutional provision applies when it doesn't is one way to do a coup. And you know that.
Can you prove that it doesn't apply? To most of us, Trump appears to be about two wheels short of a unicycle. He needs to undergo a mental evaluation and put the whole matter to rest.
Can you prove that it doesn't apply? To most of us, Trump appears to be about two wheels short of a unicycle. He needs to undergo a mental evaluation and put the whole matter to rest.
Yesterday, Trump stood in the Rose Garden and said he didn't need to declare a national emergency.
Discussing things is now tantamount to...well what exactly? Trump is such a transparently crooked, lying con man that it would have been dereliction of duty NOT to consider it.
" Trump is such a transparently crooked, lying con man that it would have been dereliction of duty NOT to consider it."
UH, how many times has he been found GUILTY in court?
How much jail time has he served?
We CONSTANTLY read these charges and NOT SINGLE BIT OF PROOF TO BACK THEM UP!
It is all just wishful thinking!
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The Constitutional provision is clear...
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Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
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The people who wrote the amendment were reasonably smart and quite clearly and deliberately left the rational for recalling the President up to his direct staff.
Basically the President can be recalled anytime his cabinet decides to do so. And in my mind that is a perfectly resonable standard. If you cannot trust your own selected staff you should not have the job.
The other way is impeachment. But that is a political process with a different set of rules.
"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."
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