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Beto has lived on the border his whole life. I trust his judgement over Don the Con, who has never, and I repeat, never, talked or cared about a wall or immigration. Then he met the torch and pitchfork crowd and all of suddenly started obsessively whining about Mexico.
Kind of getting harder and harder for you guys to lie about not wanting open borders ain't it?
Not having a wall does not define open border. That is not what open border means. Maybe that's the problem -- maybe it is a misunderstanding of the terms being used.
One Texan Republican politicians says that improved access to technology will be a better and more effective method of addressing border security. There are parts that are vast deserts and they need one tower with cameras to patrol. It will be more cost effective than a wall and at the same time will provide much needed improve technology access in those areas.
See how that works --- different approach to security rather than a simple, medieval approach.
That isn't what you are doing though, is it? You aren't saying, "Beto wants open borders" or "Beto and other top Democrats want open borders" or something and leaving it at that. You aren't saying, "Why do so many Dems want open borders" or anything like that. You keep saying "Democrats want open borders". That is an explicit declaration. Especially when you say, "The only people lying are you Dems who say you don't want open borders". That explicitly states that you believe all Dems want that. You can play word games all you want, but anyone with a room temp IQ can see that you don't mean "some".
You can sit here and say, "I don't have to say that to mean that!", but on an online forum, you certainly do. Or at the very least, you have to say something that doesn't explicitly state what you claim you aren't saying...
Edit- Let me who you what I mean, okay? If I say, "Republicans are anti-gay bigots" or "Republicans are racist", what would you think I mean?
There are always exceptions to the rule.
But a lot more Democrats openly advocate weak immigration policies that amount to defacto open borders than Republicans openly advocate anti gay bigotry.
In fact most will strongly deny it and rightly so.
Not having a wall does not define open border. That is not what open border means. Maybe that's the problem -- maybe it is a misunderstanding of the terms being used.
One Texan Republican politicians says that improved access to technology will be a better and more effective method of addressing border security. There are parts that are vast deserts and they need one tower with cameras to patrol. It will be more cost effective than a wall and at the same time will provide much needed improve technology access in those areas.
See how that works --- different approach to security rather than a simple, medieval approach.
What is the purpose of tearing down existing physical barriers other than to make it easier for people to cross the border illegaly?
Technology doesn't stop anyone from physically crossing the border......
It only helps catch them once they're already here.....
So they can claim asylum.....and clog up the courts, disappear and maybe pop out an anchor baby...
There is only one reason why Dems don't want borders... It all boils down to control and votes. They know that 70% of Latinos vote Democrat. They want to attempt to run the table and take over States like Arizona and eventually Texas but increasing the Latino population. It's all planned out in their minds.
The Wall puts a serious damper on their plans.
This is the key issue....it's all about control.
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Not having a wall does not define open border. That is not what open border means. Maybe that's the problem -- maybe it is a misunderstanding of the terms being used.
One Texan Republican politicians says that improved access to technology will be a better and more effective method of addressing border security. There are parts that are vast deserts and they need one tower with cameras to patrol. It will be more cost effective than a wall and at the same time will provide much needed improve technology access in those areas.
See how that works --- different approach to security rather than a simple, medieval approach.
Sorry moneill, the LAW defines open boarders and the democrats are defending LAW that has effectively caused open boarder already.
President Trump stared with wanting 24 billion dollars for a cement wall from the Pacific to the Gulf.
his request of 5.7 Billion (and his current stance on the National Emergency) is both a compromise from that position AND a bending to the influence of ICE as they have advised him on what is needed. He has stated that there are areas that are natural barriers that done need wall. He has moved from big beautiful wall to steel barriers that are see thru.
The LEFT has said you cant have anything you big fat jerk meannie pants boogieman racist!!!!!!!!
the left has 100% committed to POLICY that drives to both open boarders and giving citizenship to everyone here illegally. THAT is the goal. Voting citizens who will give them a lock on every election. period.
As for your one texas republican, those of us that live here know full well that the demorcats have put an "R" next to their names to get elected. we have liberals here who are Rs for the time being.
well im jumping into the middle of ya'lls argument but on the subject of boarders and illegal immigration, there is the "say" and the "do"
Democrats in general have said some stuff that runs from wanting open boarders and getting rid of ICE, to we need a strong boarder. so that's the say.
but then there is the "do". The "do" includes things like sending cash to caravans of illegals trying to get here. (Absolutely proven in the last election cycle that Beto was doing that).
There is the current legislation that just passed. It intends to prevent the president from putting up more wall. There has been a very solid (and successful) effort to insure that illegals that come to the US and step one foot on the soil can apply for asylum and our only response is to allow them in, give them a case number and ask them to return for a hearing in 3+ years.
There has been a concerted effort from the left to legitimize all illegals currently in this country and all negations include a hard and fast path to citizenship for all illegals. period.
so the "do" from the left is pure and simple. What Beto has stated is 100% in line with the "DO" of the entire left.
YOU PEOPLE WANT OPEN BOARDERS AND YOUR ACTIONS ARE CLEAR ON IT.
Another ignorant poster who lumps an entire group of millions upon millions of people into one category... Sad.
But a lot more Democrats openly advocate weak immigration policies that amount to defacto open borders than Republicans openly advocate anti gay bigotry.
In fact most will strongly deny it and rightly so.
So what you think I mean is irrelevant.
I don't "think" you mean it. Your words SHOW that you mean it.
If you bothered to step out of your bubble every now and then, you would know that the large majority of Democrats are not advocating for weak immigration policies. They are advocating for SMART immigration policies. Simply spending billions on a wall isn't that. Either way, you do you boo. Keep looking like just another ignorant Fox News puppet if you want. Not my problem.
Funny how you didn't answer my question either.... Maybe because you know I am right.
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