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And that means absolutely nothing to his supporters, that he ran hard on Mexico paying for it, not the tax payers. They even participated in those chants at the rallies, they bought into Mexico paying for the wall. Now look where we are today, the American tax payers to foot the bill.
The only people who took Trump literally about Mexico paying for the wall were those who were dead set against it from the beginning.
Now, the whole "Mexico paying for the wall" has become little more than a sour grape talking point for those same people.
Did you really think that Trump literally meant that Mexico would cut us a check?
But you are right about one thing.....
For those who place a high importance on border security, the end goal is more important than who pays for it.
Kind of like the Left was with Obamacare.....
Only you all actually believed his BS about every family saving thousands per year ....
Coulter is right in that this entire wall issue is a scam. There is no way a wall will get built to the degree that Trump implies. It will get really weighted down once the federal government starts to seize private land. Furthermore, this national emergency declaration will be tied up in the courts for a long time. Even more opposition to it will form once it is better understood where Trump want to pull funds from uses that congress had allocated for.
Trump's words and actions yesterday really undermined his declaration. He actually said he din't need to do it and then shortly after jumped on a plane headed for a Florida vacation. Some crisis.
Trump did not do much for two years with regard to the wall funding as congress would not act on it even when it was in full GOP control. He however did not want to go toe to toe with his own party as he need its cooperation on other matters. His demands only really came about when the Democrats were set to take control. He realized that he was even less likely to get his wall before he had to run again but also hypothesized that with Democrats controlling the house, he had an opponent he could now blame for getting no wall funding. Trump realizes that his wall is pretty much not going to get built. It is however a symbol that he ran on and is important to many of the most stupid of his base. This move is just a cynical prop to make it look like he is fighting to get it built and deliver on his promise (even if Mexico will not pay for it). He knows it is not getting built but knows he just has to make it appear that he fought for it and it is progressing. This is all he needs to keep happy the millions of very simple minds that support him.
Bingo. I considered explaining it much the same myself but then I asked myself; why? I might as well explain it to a rock. The people than need to understand it the most, are incapable of doing so, and everyone else already gets it.
Utter nonsense! The good walls do work. One could say that the Democrats are opposed to the wall to pander to their supporters also and to keep the votes coming their way. They in particular want more future voters from illegals whom they'd love to give our citizenship to. So what's the difference?
Coulter is right in that this entire wall issue is a scam. There is no way a wall will get built to the degree that Trump implies. It will get really weighted down once the federal government starts to seize private land. Furthermore, this national emergency declaration will be tied up in the courts for a long time. Even more opposition to it will form once it is better understood where Trump want to pull funds from uses that congress had allocated for.
Trump's words and actions yesterday really undermined his declaration. He actually said he din't need to do it and then shortly after jumped on a plane headed for a Florida vacation. Some crisis.
Trump did not do much for two years with regard to the wall funding as congress would not act on it even when it was in full GOP control. He however did not want to go toe to toe with his own party as he need its cooperation on other matters. His demands only really came about when the Democrats were set to take control. He realized that he was even less likely to get his wall before he had to run again but also hypothesized that with Democrats controlling the house, he had an opponent he could now blame for getting no wall funding. Trump realizes that his wall is pretty much not going to get built. It is however a symbol that he ran on and is important to many of the most stupid of his base. This move is just a cynical prop to make it look like he is fighting to get it built and deliver on his promise (even if Mexico will not pay for it). He knows it is not getting built but knows he just has to make it appear that he fought for it and it is progressing. This is all he needs to keep happy the millions of very simple minds that support him. These people are so far detached from the evidence and facts before them that reality does not matter. Just need to give them a show that they can easily follow and understand.
With regard to seizing private land - those landowners have already started filing suit since Trump announced his "national emergency'. You know - those avid Democrats in Texas.
Secondly, you are also correct in that the GOP does not and did not want the wall. Numerous Republican representatives are on record as stating that the wall is not the best use of their money. It's but one reason Paul Ryan would never bring it up for a vote.
Trump rambled on like an adderall addicted, old man, who has all but given up.
How anyone continues to believe what falls out of his mouth is beyond me.
The only people who took Trump literally about Mexico paying for the wall were those who were dead set against it from the beginning.
Now, the whole "Mexico paying for the wall" has become little more than a sour grape talking point for those same people.
Did you really think that Trump literally meant that Mexico would cut us a check?
But you are right about one thing.....
For those who place a high importance on border security, the end goal is more important than who pays for it.
Kind of like the Left was with Obamacare.....
Only you all actually believed his BS about every family saving thousands per year ....
Sorry, that explanation won't fly. You know damn good and well Trump supporters believed every lie that comes out of his mouth, including that Mexico would pay for the wall.
Obamacare has helped millions of people get insurance who otherwise couldn't afford it. It's also helped those with pre-existing conditions. We're one of the families that it has helped tremendously. So peddle that crap someplace else..
Oh look more projection! Look at all those people going off the rails! Meanwhile the president attempts to use emergency powers to circumvent the constitution.
The emergency powers act doesn't "circumvent the Constitution".
If it did, then every President that ever used it, including Obama was "circumventing the Constitution".
Oh but BTW....Obama using an executive order for DACA and effectively single handedly writing immigration law WAS circumventing the Constitution.
Not sure he said he didn’t even know her , I did hear him say he hadn’t seen her in over a year , but Ann also turned against Bush near the end of his term , I don’t think she’s quite sure who’s bandwagon she wants to be on after a while .
He did said he didn't know her, then he said I hardly know her.
The emergency powers act doesn't "circumvent the Constitution".
If it did, then every President that ever used it, including Obama was "circumventing the Constitution".
Oh but BTW....Obama using an executive order for DACA and effectively single handedly writing immigration law WAS circumventing the Constitution.
When the emergency powers act is invoked on a fake emergency to gain access to funding that was expressly forbidden by a bipartisan funding bill passed by Congress it absolutely 1000% is circumventing the constitution.
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