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Old 02-15-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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The fact we have people moronic enough to think a self serving, completely dishonest con man will save us is strong evidence that the country is already lost.

...the other choice was Hillary
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Is the country lost? It is a serious question. I have real concerns for the future of America given what we have been witnessing coming from the Democrats.



One has to be blind not to see that illegal immigration is a problem yet the Dems are resisting and fighting
Trump who wants to shore up the border against people that would break our immigration laws.

What could be more basic than enforcing our existing immigration laws yet time and again illegal aliens that are caught committing crimes are released to continue their crime sprees against Legal immigrants and citizens alike.



It is estimated that Illegal immigration costs us all nearly $90 Billion per year. There is something like 300 people a day that die from drug overdoses and much of that junk comes across our borders.



There are Dems that would tear down all the walls and disband ICE but then what would happen?

What happens when the caravans keep coming?
What happens when Venezuela totally fails and hundreds of thousands if not millions of people spread out to surrounding countries and many with nothing to lose and everything to gain march their way to our border with nothing but the clothes on their backs?

Trump speaks of a humanitarian crisis and he is right about this. There are people dying and suffering on both sides of the border but so many Democrats think it is a joke. They think it is a game and Pelosi is winning because she has beaten Trump on this issue.



The Democrats seem so intent on running America into the ground to spite Trump that by the time they get back in power it might be too late to fix it.



I am at the point of frustration and a point in my life that I'm thinking why bother. Why not let the Dems take over and let them fundamentally change America, knock it off its pedestal and turn it into something it was never meant to be thus destroying it.



Of course they will blame Trump, he gets the blame for everything regardless but what has he really done in the past 2 years that has hurt America to the extent that the Lefty media tells us he has? We have low unemployment, an economy that is chugging along nicely, when was the last time we heard about a terrorist strike? Things are looking up but "they" tell us it is not.



Imagine if in 20 years America has been taken down a notch and our quality of life has been lowered due to bad policies etc etc. and we look back on this time and admit that Trump was right about so much including securing the border. Imagine if that happens in 20 years.



I just don't understand the extreme far Left posture that so many Dems are now taking and what it means for us all if one of them should get into power.



Is the country lost or do we still have a chance?

The spending bill passed the Republican majority Senate so your attempt to blame Democrats is lame at best. Put the blame where it belongs, squarely on the shoulders of the spoiled little brat in the White House who just can't accept the fact the world doesn't revolve around him.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The fact we have people moronic enough to think a self serving, completely dishonest con man will save us is strong evidence that the country is already lost.
No. The country was able to survive 8 long years of Bush. Surely, it is strong enough to survive Trump.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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The fact we have people moronic enough to think a self serving, completely dishonest con man will save us is strong evidence that the country is already lost.
How is taking action to help slow the tide of illegals self-serving? What I can't figure out is why Democrats are so determined to incentivize illegals to come here.

We have the governor of CA bribing illegals with American-funded free health insurance, and on the opposite coast, a liberal socialist Congresswoman from NY driving out 25,000 new jobs that would average $150,000 - and spur new restaurants, hotels, stores, and so forth, along with billions in tax revenues.

Almost makes it sound as those Dems prefer poor, uneducated illegal immigrants to hard-working, educated Americans will who pay taxes.

SNH.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Liberals are traitors. They must never get into power again.
Well, I hope to God that Republicans will come up with someone a lot better than Trump.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How is taking action to help slow the tide of illegals self-serving? What I can't figure out is why Democrats are so determined to incentivize illegals to come here.

We have the governor of CA bribing illegals with American-funded free health insurance, and on the opposite coast, a liberal socialist Congresswoman from NY driving out 25,000 new jobs that would average $150,000 - and spur new restaurants, hotels, stores, and so forth, along with billions in tax revenues.

Almost makes it sound as those Dems prefer poor, uneducated illegal immigrants to hard-working, educated Americans will who pay taxes.

SNH.

Who said it was? It's taking action against a spoiled brat who just can't accept the world doesn't revolve around him and fabricates 'emergencies' in a lame attempt to get his way that needs to be done.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The thing is that Americans already know this, and yet they still voted overwhelmingly for Democrats and even far-left socialist Democrats in 2018.

Go figure that one out.
IF conservatives and Republicans are only good and acceptable for the country, then why the hell did Oklahoma City vote a Democrat for U. S. Congressional rep.? The answer is surely, no, Republicans are not all that good and acceptable for this country. Republicans govern like it's the very wealthy who are really hurting bad all the time.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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The fact we have people moronic enough to think a self serving, completely dishonest con man will save us is strong evidence that the country is already lost.
Obama has been out of office for over 2 years, and you need to let him go. Seriously.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:46 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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This nation is not lost completely, but there are many cracks in it due to so many cultural decline issues which have happened in the last fifty years. It didn't end with the 1960s counterculture, but you can start there. Our history and government textbooks (at least in the public schools) have been hijacked by Howard Zinn and other left-wing zealots with a design to poison the minds of kids. Attitudes and civility have drastically changed. The breakdown of the family certainly has very much to do with it. We've also had too many corrupt politicians through the years, and that is why we had to have someone like Donald John Trump stand up to say "Enough is enough". At this moment, he's been the only leader in Washington, along with Vice President Mike Pence and the few conservative politicians willing to stand, with the guts to keep America a sovereign nation. As it is right now, we are teetering on the brink of communism for the past eight years and narrowly missed being gone as a country just over two years ago.

Can this country be saved? Yes, but the road to get there won't be easy. We've got a swamp in Washington, D.C. that must be drained, and this may well take more than two Trump terms to get it done. Changing the culture, on the other hand, won't happen with government. It certainly doesn't help when you've got a whole bunch of misguided people out there who are careless and who are trying to knock on the door of higher offices so that government can take over our nation. That is what many of us do not want to see happen. A conservative resurgence is trying to gain some steam, and I still think it can get momentum. It begins with us, and then it can spread to the select elected officials currently in office (who do love America) and those yet to be. This isn't going to change overnight. But if conservatives and patriots let their guards down for one second, then the wrong people will be elected to serve. And they won't be serving, either.

There really is no more Democrat Party, folks. It's been eaten up by socialist and communist wannabes to an entity left for dead, and now just wandering aimlessly. We continue to be at a crossroads, and the nation is teetering.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:48 PM
 
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Some white states will eventually secede. We won’t be able to support the garbage sneaking across the border without accepting high taxes and a lower standard of living.
Are there any white states that nearly pay their own way and are on the coast? I can't imagine Idaho leaving the Union...they'd be landlocked.

Vermont 96.2%
Maine 95.5%
New Hampshire 95.0%
West Virginia 94.3%
Iowa 92.9%
Idaho 92.1%
Wyoming 91.6%

Vermont and NH aren't going anywhere...they are patriots and doing well. Maine can't afford to....largely a backwater except very liberal Portland area.

Iowa is fine and dandy (I know a lot of Iowans).

WV can't even start to pay it's way...let alone being landlocked.

That leaves WY and ID....which, not only would never do so, but if they did it wouldn't even be noticed in terms of the economy, etc.

Better try something else.
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