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Old 02-18-2019, 08:01 PM
 
Location: IL
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uh no. you want this becuase you keep losing elections. super lame
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: IL
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2016 election was the perfect case FOR the EC............if you dont like it its because you are too stupid to play by the rules of the game
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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Liberals and Democrats want changes in the electoral and constitutional system.

No more red/blue state Election Night graphics when it comes to the presidential election.

The president/vice president must be elected by the popular vote.

That means in 2000 it should have been **President Al Gore/Vice President Joe Lieberman.

Bush would have gone back home to Texas, probably run for a third gubernatorial term in 2002, Jeb and him would probably think of running in '04 against McCain and George Allen in the '04 GOP primaries; Cheney back to Halliburton.

That means in 2016 it should have been **President Hillary Clinton/Vice President Tim Kaine.

Trump, a billionaire would have gone back to NY and Mar-a-lago, back to his business, he would have gotten his Moscow Russia project done, Pence would have retired as Indiana governor and probably get a job in the private sector, or potentially run in the '20 election against Nikki Haley, Ted Cruz in the '20 GOP primaries.

Will both parties squeal if the EC is abolished?



The EC won't be abolished.



Case Closed.



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Old 02-18-2019, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The EC has about as much of a chance of being abolished as the Obamaminable One does of becoming the next mayor of Chicago or Emperor of Japan.
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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No a Democracy is 51% rule, but a Constitutional Democratic Republic is a government that no one branch is more powerful than the other. If both the House and Senate vote for a bill, the president can approve or Vito, if the President Vito's it, if there is enough votes in both the House and the Senate, they can override the Presidents Vito, and the courts can override both.


A True Democracy 51% tell the other 49% what to do.
The United States is both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. The citizens directly elect their leaders; that makes it a form of democracy.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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........Which is a form of democratic government, also known as a "democracy."

It is that question, what is the government of the US, the most people get wrong by seeing it as the above.


A democracy, where the majority rules, and a Constitutional Republic, where the individual has certain rights regardless of what the majority says.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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It is that question, what is the government of the US, the most people get wrong by seeing it as the above.


A democracy, where the majority rules, and a Constitutional Republic, where the individual has certain rights regardless of what the majority says.
The United States is both - it's a constitutional representative democracy. A democratic government is simply a system in which the citizens elect their own leaders. I'm always surprised at how many intelligent and seemingly well-educated people are so egregiously misinformed about this issue.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Leftists don't want to abolish the 2nd amendment or the rule of law. At one time or another people from both sides have suggested abolishing the Electoral College

Nobody on the left wants us to become Venezuela. Trump does though. He wants to be a dictator.

You might want to watch, listen or read something that isn't all RWNJ media points because from the tone of your post it sounds like you are buying all of their propaganda.
Got news for you, Tim --- a lot of people on the left do want to abolish the 2nd amendment, abolish the electoral college, eliminate us as a constitutional republic, and turn us into a so called Socialist paradise. Those are indisputable facts.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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No a Democracy is 51% rule, but a Constitutional Democratic Republic is a government that no one branch is more powerful than the other. If both the House and Senate vote for a bill, the president can approve or Vito, if the President Vito's it, if there is enough votes in both the House and the Senate, they can override the Presidents Vito, and the courts can override both.


A True Democracy 51% tell the other 49% what to do.


And the electoral College is going no where.
Correct on all counts.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:31 AM
 
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The day they abolish the EC half the states will secede from the union if they are smart.
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