White Nationalist and US Coast Guard Lieutenant Arrested, Planned to Kill Democratic Senators and & CNN/MSNBC Employees

[shadowne]

Thankfully he was caught before anyone was hurt, unlike this guy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...publicans.html

[EveryLady]

Originally Posted by shadowne

Thankfully he was caught before anyone was hurt, unlike this guy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...publicans.html

That some do get thru is all the more reason to take these incidents seriously - which you do.

There's this tension between being vigilant but then simultaneously putting concerns aside to not negatively impact daily life. (That may well be harder, of course, for targeted public figures.)

[jpdivola]

Originally Posted by ncguy50

Glad they caught this nut before he could hurt anybody.

I agree. Thankfully he was caught before he could do any damage. It looks like there are 3 angles to the story:

1) are we doing enough to detect and treat mental illness. It is unclear to what extent this person was mentally ill vs a committed extremist. He had a wife and a stable middle class job. But clearly this is not normal human behavior.
2) are we doing enough to prevent mentally ill/radicalized people from acquiring weapons. There will always be some people that slip through the cracks, but giving them easy access to weapons can vastly magnify the damage they can do.
3) are we doing enough to fight extremism. While it is true unbalanced people will find extreme causes to join. It would help if they didn't have a vast online ecosystem of hate to trigger them and feed their sense of victimization. Its not random that extremists target Jews and not Episcopalians. Despite both groups being disproportionately affluent and socially liberal, one group has a vast ideology of hate directed against it and the the other one doesn't. By all accounts this person was deeply steeped in white nationalist thought.

[imbobbbb]

Originally Posted by Feltdesigner

Yes. That’s the important question.

I wonder what kind of car he drove too?

Sarcasm over.

I didn't say it was 'the important question',it just struck me as very odd.Perhaps you've never been in the military.They usually don't allow people who don't perform well enough in their duties to advance in rank to stay in the military.Most people pushing 50 would have 25-30 years in service by now and wouldn't still have a rank that would normally be obtained within roughly the first 6 years of service.


I'm sorry you didn't find it worthy of discussion.I'm not sure if there have been any studies done to show whether white nationalists are more likely to drive Saabs,Chevys,Vws.or Toyotas but i'm sure the truth is out there.

[KS_Referee]

Originally Posted by imbobbbb

I didn't say it was 'the important question',it just struck me as very odd.Perhaps you've never been in the military.They usually don't allow people who don't perform well enough in their duties to advance in rank to stay in the military.Most people pushing 50 would have 25-30 years in service by now and wouldn't still have a rank that would normally be obtained within roughly the first 6 years of service.


I'm sorry you didn't find it worthy of discussion.I'm not sure if there have been any studies done to show whether white nationalists are more likely to drive Saabs,Chevys,Vws.or Toyotas but i'm sure the truth is out there.

I know several senior NCOs that did not have a college degree, typically E-7 through E-9 who were offered commissions and most turned them down. When one accepts a commission they are expected to get their college degree and they might get one promotion after the initial commission, but it is likely they will not get a 2nd if they haven't completed the degree. The article said this guy didn't have a college degree.



Yes, I was raised a military brat. My father retired as a CSM, an E-9 in the Army.