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View Poll Results: Will the Michael Cohen testimony bring enough dirt on Trump to impeach?
Yes, i believe it will 44 14.15%
It will definitely hurt Trump but not enough to impeach 104 33.44%
No, basically it will be a nothingburger 163 52.41%
Voters: 311. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-26-2019, 10:55 PM
 
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according to cohen it was repayment which makes the original payment an illegal campaign contribution or loan ( at a felony level ) which wasn't reported.
Yep!

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Old 02-26-2019, 10:56 PM
 
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according to cohen it was repayment which makes the original payment an illegal campaign contribution or loan ( at a felony level ) which wasn't reported.



according to Cohen? LMAO!!!...... Did Cohen take the money out of the campaign contribution account? or did Cohen used his personal money and Trump paid him back? how is that a campaign contribution or an illegal loan? LMAO!!
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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how is that a campaign contribution or an illegal loan? LMAO!!

the payment was directly for the benefit of the campaign, that's how it's a campaign contribution ( per campaign finance laws ).
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:08 PM
 
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Did Cohen take the money out of the campaign contribution account? or did Cohen used his personal money and Trump paid him back?

from a home equity line of credit at trump's direction ( according to cohen ) altho either would be illegal ( plus the payment wasn't reported on any campaign finance disclosures ).
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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the payment was directly for the benefit of the campaign, that's how it's a campaign contribution ( per campaign finance laws ).

or maybe he didn't want his wife to find out. As for the claim the hush-money payments would be an impeachable offense, members of Congress would have to explain why prior cases in which campaigns like that of Barack Obama paid civil penalties to the Federal Election Commission for violations of federal campaign finance law were not grounds for impeachment.


In fact, neither the Federal Election Commission which is the independent agency tasked with enforcing the Federal Election Campaign Acts nor its former commissioners see any crime here.
President Donald Trump didn’t violate campaign-finance law. the payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal came from his personal finances, not campaign funds, for something he believed was unrelated to the campaign. As the president told reporters, “They didn’t come out of the campaign; they came from me.”


that's like saying the IRS didn't find tax crimes but Democrats do? LOL



that is not an impeachable offense. Federal Election Commission doesn't see a crime here......try again! LOL

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Old 02-26-2019, 11:38 PM
 
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or maybe he didn't want his wife to find out.

you'd have a hard time convincing a jury that it wasn't for the benefit of the campaign since A): the payment happened a week before the election, B): trump/cohen had an opportunity to buy stormy's story before the campaign and ignored it, C): cohen has directly stated it was for the campaign.





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As for the claim the hush-money payments would be an impeachable offense, members of Congress would have to explain why prior cases in which campaigns like that of Barack Obama paid civil penalties to the Federal Election Commission for violations of federal campaign finance law were not grounds for impeachment.

those were for missing 48hour deadlines and were reported.



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President Donald Trump didn’t violate campaign-finance law. the payments made to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal came from his personal finances,....


cohen was reimbursed in installments from trump's private account, it's still unclear if the national enquirer/pecker was repaid. each sum exceeds campaign contribution limits and neither were reported on campaign financial disclosures.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:53 PM
 
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too much in there to go over tonight. the two biggest take-aways ( IMO ) from cohen's claims:


A): that cohen was there with trump listening on speaker phone when roger stone admitted to having contact with jullian assange and all had knowledge of wiki-leaks intention of releasing dirt on clinton.


B): trump's personal attorney's assisted cohen in lying to congress.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:54 PM
 
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according to Cohen? LMAO!!!...... Did Cohen take the money out of the campaign contribution account? or did Cohen used his personal money and Trump paid him back? how is that a campaign contribution or an illegal loan? LMAO!!
Are you always this obtuse?
 
Old 02-26-2019, 11:56 PM
 
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you'd have a hard time convincing a jury that it wasn't for the benefit of the campaign since A): the payment happened a week before the election, B): trump/cohen had an opportunity to buy stormy's story before the campaign and ignored it, C): cohen has directly stated it was for the campaign.

this will never get to a jury. Federal Election Commission doesn't see a crime here. Kinda hard to convince a jury of tax fraud when the IRS doesn't see it. If the Federal Election commision doesn't see a crime then why would a jury?


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those were for missing 48hour deadlines and were reported.
wrong.....President Obama’s campaign has agreed to pay a $375,000 fine to the Federal Election Commission, among the largest penalties in the agency’s history. The fine was imposed after an audit of the campaign’s books showed that it failed to report the identities of donors who gave large checks in the weeks before the 2008 election, according to a copy of the agreement between the FEC and the president’s campaign. The document shows that the Obama campaign failed to disclose the identities of donors responsible for $2 million in contributions in the weeks ahead of the election. The campaign also misreported the dates of $85 million in other contributions.In addition, the Obama campaign also kept $1.3 million in contributions that were above the legal maximum allowed for a federal campaign, failing to return them within the 60 days required by law. The campaign kept almost $874,000 of those donations until the FEC discovered they were unlawful.


48 hour deadline my a$$.......why wasn't that an impeachable offense?

Even if the FEC fines Trump which they won't, is not a crime or an impeachable offense.....try again!

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Old 02-26-2019, 11:58 PM
 
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Are you always this obtuse?

the feeling is mutual.
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