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I already explained what a "public good" is earlier in the thread.
Here, let me try again....with Mr. Giraffe and Ms. Squirrel.....yayyyyyyy!
Mr. Giraffe: Um, if there is a military base in Alabama will it help protect me even though I live in Iowa?
Ms. Squirrel: Yes. Even thought it's in another state, you benefit from it. It's a public good. Well except for Mississipppi, screw them.
Mr. Giraffe: Well, what about the interstate highways that cross states with almost no population like Nebraska? Do they have roadblocks and only allow Nebraska drivers on those roads?
Ms. Squirrel: A variety of cars and of course inter-state shipping crosses those roads so again, it's a shared good that benefits all states. However, no one that has ever entered that state has returned so it's all speculation considering the "corn kraken" that lurks there beneath the earth.
Public good. Those bases are as much job factories for high school educated and stimulus to local economies as they actually provide protection to the country. Many of the areas where they are located would barely continue to exist without them
Those bases are as much job factories for high school educated and stimulus to local economies as they actually provide protection to the country.
True, get back to us when you have an analysis that adjusts for military spending, road spending, multi state tax revenues and the 100's of other variables.
Public good. Those bases are as much job factories for high school educated and stimulus to local economies as they actually provide protection to the country. Many of the areas where they are located would barely continue to exist without them
that is accurate..no matter what state
if Fort Drum (New York) was to close (it has been on the BRAC lists a few times) Watertown, and the other towns around it, would die
NTC (National Training Center), Fort Irwin, California, is a major boost to the economy of San Bernardino county in California, Fort Irwin just opened a 211 million dollar hospital... if fort Irwin was to close it would hurt the economy of that county.
The closure of Fort Ord left behind a gaping hole in the local economy (The loss of all those people(36,000 in population) and jobs added up to a more than $500 million hit to the region.) and an area of land the size of San Francisco.
and don't forget, that these old bases, will usually be superfund sites from decades or centuries of government waste and abuse in dumping of chemicals.
Thank you. That points out a huge problem I hadn't thought of. Those big companies in New York engage in interstate commerce, and the counterparties in other states are 50% responsible for creating those companies' tax liability, but that New York firm that actually cuts the check gets counted as paying 100% while the customer in Kentucky gets counted as paying 0. The two sides of the transaction are engaging in the same economic activity that creates a certain tax liability, but the fact that it is paid by one party and not the other is a meaningless artifact that results in a superficial difference.
Thank you. That points out a huge problem I hadn't thought of. Those big companies in New York engage in interstate commerce, and the counterparties in other states are 50% responsible for creating those companies' tax liability, but that New York firm that actually cuts the check gets counted as paying 100% while the customer in Kentucky gets counted as paying 0. The two sides of the transaction are engaging in the same economic activity that creates a certain tax liability, but the fact that it is paid by one party and not the other is a meaningless artifact that results in a superficial difference.
I have already mentioned this. A company headquartered in Texas is drilling natural gas in Pennsylvania and selling a lot of it outside the state of Pennsylvanian. Same issue within states themselves. Comcast located in Philadelphia is selling a sevice to even beyond the boundaries of the state and the rest of the state purchasing their services gets no credit for it if you are basing it on taxes paid by Comcast.
So with the daily sprouting of threads trashing California and New York for running up the nation's debt and wasting taxpayer money, I thought I'd look up more details on what reality is vs. the rhetoric.
Turns out, blue states are essentially subsidizing lower taxes in red states.
Most of the top 20 are red states:
New Mexico
Mississippi
Alaska
Louisiana
West Virginia
North Dakota
Alabama
South Dakota
Kentucky
Virginia
Montana
Hawaii
Maine
Arkansas
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Missouri
Maryland
Tennessee
Idaho
California, the right wing's favorite state to hate, gets back only 78 cents of every dollar paid in federal taxes, meaning 22 cents of every tax dollar Californians pay goes to pay the bill for other states, primarily red states that constantly complain about them.
Of course they are. My liberal friends in MA have complained for years that they work there butts off and they do make high salaries--they've worked really hard to get there.
Then the rural-member Tea Party and the trump rural following comes along, and the rural minority think they should tell the government how to spend other people's money they have barely contributed to. The minority feels they should make the rules and tell the rest of the country how to live. It is something that upscale liberal residents of blue states really resent.
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Those bases are as much job factories for high school educated and stimulus to local economies as they actually provide protection to the country. Many of the areas where they are located would barely continue to exist without them
