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Old 02-21-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Did you say something about "going off the rails"? It seems my points were factual, and I can provide evidence if it is all new to you.
Sure, where is your evidence that I am a 'Trump loyalist?' This should be good.....
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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So, does Trump love the Saudis, or is he a hate filled anti-Muslim bigot?

Which is it?
Trump loves saudis or hates Muslims
Trump is in the pay of Putin-while stepping up sanctions against them
Trump is part of "Russian collusion"-while Putin is developing new weapons to threaten the US with
Trump hates gays, while working to "decriminalize" homosexuality around the world

The left can't even keep their stories straight any longer.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Trump loves saudis or hates Muslims
Trump is in the pay of Putin-while stepping up sanctions against them
Trump is part of "Russian collusion"-while Putin is developing new weapons to threaten the US with
Trump hates gays, while working to "decriminalize" homosexuality around the world

The left can't even keep their stories straight any longer.
Just remember one simple rule: TDS trumps all (pun intended). This will help you to resolve the swirl of contradictions in an instant!
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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Getting along with other countries is a good thing. No country is perfect. The scary aspect here is that liberals want war with everybody... Especially with North Korea and with Russia. Liberals are dangerous.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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Adam Schiff's an idiot and a pure hater.

When they list Adam BullSchiff as a source of anything they have to be desperate.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:00 PM
 
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Every president has loved the Saudis, lol.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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The Saudis, like every one else, is play Trump for the fool he is. They were huddling with China today plotting an economic union to exclude the US. Trump has weakened the US and made us a laughing stock around the globe. China is filling the leadership vacuum Trump left behind.
It's so easy to play Trump, with his combination of ignorance and self-aggrandizing vanity. The Saudis are apparently very good at playing America in general, apart from Trump. They were crowing about how they got George W. Bush to cater to them.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:39 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So, does Trump love the Saudis, or is he a hate filled anti-Muslim bigot?

Which is it?

Given that he's happy selling weapons (and apartments) to the Saudis while banning some from other Muslim countries from the US, it would seem that he's both.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Trump loves saudis or hates Muslims
Trump is in the pay of Putin-while stepping up sanctions against them
Trump is part of "Russian collusion"-while Putin is developing new weapons to threaten the US with
Trump hates gays, while working to "decriminalize" homosexuality around the world
The left can't even keep their stories straight any longer.
There is no contradiction in the first three. I already addressed one directly:
I believe he is overall anti-Muslim (just as he's against anything other than what he is), but as with many Republicans, self-interest, greed and money trump everything, so he's happy to pal around with them for profit. In the same way, I suspect he's anti-Semitic, but the his self-interest again trumped the situation to allow him to embrace Jared.

I don't know what you're referring to in the fourth. In what way is he decriminalizing homosexuality around the world. Surely he's not badgering Saudis.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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But you knew that already, right?


“There’s a whole constellation of issues where that is essentially the center of gravity,” [Adam] Schiff said. “Obviously, that issue is implicated in efforts to build Trump Tower in Moscow. It’s implicated in the money that Trump is bragging he was getting from the Saudis. And why shouldn’t he love the Saudis? He said he was making so much money from them.” As the Washington Post has reported, Trump has sold a hotel to a Saudi prince, a $4.5-million apartment near the United Nations to the Saudi government, and many other apartments to Saudi nationals, and, since Trump became President, his hotels in New York and Chicago have seen significant increases in bookings from Saudi visitors. In a break with the Republican congressional leadership, Trump refuses to take action against Saudi Arabia, notwithstanding substantial evidence that Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince and the putative head of state, directed the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a journalist who lived in the United States.

For the whole article:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/12/24/adam-schiffs-plans-to-obliterate-trumps-red-line
Every President since they struck oil in Saudi Arabia has been hopelessly in love with Saudi Arabia. I can't say that I respect Trump for slobbering all over the Saudis. It makes him just like the rest. He's supposed to be different. But Obama, W, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy ... they were all just hopelessly in love with Saudi Arabia. They've all let that crappy little kingdom get away with murder -- literally -- for decades. Did Obama intervene on behalf of all the repressed and mistreated women and girls there? George W? Clinton? No, they sure didn't.

So Trump is par for the course. When it comes to the Saudis, he's a wimp.

By the way, what makes Jamal Khashoggi more worthy of our outrage than every wife or daughter than have been executed, mutilated, forces to marry at age 5 or burned alive on orders from the Saudi authorities? In other words, why should we get outraged now if we weren't already outraged?
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