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Old 02-25-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bern...you-theyre-not

Bernie Sanders once said breadlines are good -- I grew up in Communist China and I can tell you they're not

......The government controlled the distribution of essentials such as rice and cooking oil to every citizen through a rigid ration system, maintained through coupons. Those coupons were not for getting a discount – they were used to restrict the amount of essentials we were allowed to have on a monthly basis. Hunger was a constant feeling.

We were also constantly reminded that just because we had a coupon, it didn’t mean there were goods to buy in the store. It was a constant and exhausting endeavor to get our hands on the basics so that our family could survive.

That was why my parents often had to get up at three or four o’clock in the morning and stand in lines in front of two different grocery stores, waiting for a pound of sugar or flour. If they showed up late, they knew the only thing waiting for them would be empty shelves.

Yet, according to my parents, we were still lucky because we all survived. Their generation had to live through the worst famine in human history, the "Great Chinese Famine" from 1959 to 1961, which was caused by Chairman Mao's ruinous socialist policies....


I wish all American leftists could spend some time in Marxist nations to actually experience this political philosophy they crave, yet are completely ignorant of its track record of destroying the lives and economies of everything it touches.


Rarely, if ever, will someone who grew up in China or a former USSR satellite support the American left- they know better.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:27 AM
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Location: On the Border
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Maybe you need a refresher course.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqf6VrwmpQI
Well there's an unbiased source for ya! Lol
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Grlzrl View Post
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bern...you-theyre-not

Bernie Sanders once said breadlines are good -- I grew up in Communist China and I can tell you they're not

......The government controlled the distribution of essentials such as rice and cooking oil to every citizen through a rigid ration system, maintained through coupons. Those coupons were not for getting a discount – they were used to restrict the amount of essentials we were allowed to have on a monthly basis. Hunger was a constant feeling.

We were also constantly reminded that just because we had a coupon, it didn’t mean there were goods to buy in the store. It was a constant and exhausting endeavor to get our hands on the basics so that our family could survive.

That was why my parents often had to get up at three or four o’clock in the morning and stand in lines in front of two different grocery stores, waiting for a pound of sugar or flour. If they showed up late, they knew the only thing waiting for them would be empty shelves.

Yet, according to my parents, we were still lucky because we all survived. Their generation had to live through the worst famine in human history, the "Great Chinese Famine" from 1959 to 1961, which was caused by Chairman Mao's ruinous socialist policies....


And according to Bernie in the cited article: "It’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is because people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries, people don’t line up for food. The rich get the food and the poor starve to death.”


So do tell, just WHAT is so horrible about a country that would feed those who have nothing to eat rather than leave them to starve to death?

WHY is it people want to pat themselves on the back as Americans when we go all around the world helping others yet cry SOCIALISM! at the mere thought of helping an American?
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:42 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Of course he is. He believes that the government should distribute the basic necessities of its citizens.
so do you, or are you pretending your water and electricity arent quasi government entities ?
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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He loves socialism so much because it's a system that he believes will allow him to rise to the top, with all of its perks, with the ability to fund those perks thanks to a powerful government. A government that will be controlled by an elite few, and forcibly confiscate the property of its citizens under the guise of "the greater good". He's confident he'll be one of the elite, and in his mind deservedly so, since he considers himself smarter than everyone else.
I think you've got the little communist curmudgeon all figured out along with the rest of the Democrat politicians and their platform. Great job!
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It never starts out that way. Things always start out with the socialists painting a rosy picture of free healthcare for everyone and other social safety nets but it won't just end there. Socialism would never gain a foothold in any society if it didn't originally sell to the poor and underclass a fairer system for them. The problem is that once they get a little taste of the free stuff, it only will expand from there.

Sanders, AOC and other professed socialists' rhetoric are always based on class warfare: the wealthy are greedy and we need to take (tax) them and redistribute their wealth to the poor. This sounds exactly like those communist regimes talked about here. You seem to get caught up in the fact that those regimes used dictatorship force and that makes the Sanders version different. What you fail to understand is that regardless of how the means to get to a socialist state be it violent or peaceful, the idea is the same.

After a while under socialism, there is little motivation to produce in a society that will take from you all you've worked for and give to those who are unwilling to work. What's the point of overachieving?

This will lead to an overall decline in the country's economic output. Economic production slows down and the country's wealth declines, meaning we will get poorer. And while we might not have gone through the violence upheaval like Russia and China did, we will end up with the same results, i.e. everyone is poor.
Yet some people just can't comprehend that. Outstanding commentary.
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I wish all American leftists could spend some time in Marxist nations to actually experience this political philosophy they crave, yet are completely ignorant of its track record of destroying the lives and economies of everything it touches.


Rarely, if ever, will someone who grew up in China or a former USSR satellite support the American left- they know better.
If that's the kind of society they want? I don't understand why they don't just pack up and move there and leave the rest of us the hell alone?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Grlzrl View Post
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bern...you-theyre-not

Bernie Sanders once said breadlines are good -- I grew up in Communist China and I can tell you they're not

......The government controlled the distribution of essentials such as rice and cooking oil to every citizen through a rigid ration system, maintained through coupons. Those coupons were not for getting a discount – they were used to restrict the amount of essentials we were allowed to have on a monthly basis. Hunger was a constant feeling.

We were also constantly reminded that just because we had a coupon, it didn’t mean there were goods to buy in the store. It was a constant and exhausting endeavor to get our hands on the basics so that our family could survive.

That was why my parents often had to get up at three or four o’clock in the morning and stand in lines in front of two different grocery stores, waiting for a pound of sugar or flour. If they showed up late, they knew the only thing waiting for them would be empty shelves.

Yet, according to my parents, we were still lucky because we all survived. Their generation had to live through the worst famine in human history, the "Great Chinese Famine" from 1959 to 1961, which was caused by Chairman Mao's ruinous socialist policies....
In what context did Senator Sanders say “breadlines are good?”
Are they better than starving?
Most definitely.

Or is that not the case?



BTW, your post reads as if it is in the first person.

For those who got the same impression, everything after the link was lifted directly from the article.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Really helps give perspective to those who haven't experienced anything like that.
Not the OP’s experience.
It’s the experience of the person who wrote the article.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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https://bipartisanreport.com/2019/02...ly-regrets-it/



Also, the context is that bread lines are "less bad" than what was going on in African countries at the time (especially Ethiopia), where the rich were getting all the food and the poor were starving to death - Ethiopia was in a civil war at the time, just like Somaila was in the 1990s to today.
Thank you.
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