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Jewish people live all over the world, singling out a nation that populated predominantly by jewish people does not mean one dislikes jewish people... it means you dislike the actions of that nation.
The problem is that far more egregious actions by worse nations get either mild criticism or a free pass whereas Israel faces a constant assault on its legitimacy. Tibet threatened no one yet there is no criticism of China's brutal occupation of Tibet. Ditto the Soviet Union's takeover of the Kurile Islands with no regard for the rights of the islanders. Or for that matter North Vietnam's blatant disregard of the Paris Peace Treaty. Israel's territorial occupations and acquisitions came as a response to a failed attempt to "push Israel into the sea."
The problem is that far more egregious actions by worse nations get either mild criticism or a free pass whereas Israel faces a constant assault on its legitimacy. Tibet threatened no one yet there is no criticism of China's brutal occupation of Tibet. Ditto the Soviet Union's takeover of the Kurile Islands with no regard for the rights of the islanders. Or for that matter North Vietnam's blatant disregard of the Paris Peace Treaty. Israel's territorial occupations and acquisitions came as a response to a failed attempt to "push Israel into the sea."
It's the double standard that rankles.
Perhaps you didn't read one of the posts above from an Israeli American?
The obvious reason for the "double standard" is that millions of Americans have close connection to Israel and many are ever dual citizens. This is not true of the Joe-Blow islands you speak of.
That's not a double standard.
BTW, who leads the "free Tibet" movement in this country?
Yep, the "left" does. There is not only criticism but a lot of action.
We LOST the War in Vietnam...when you lose you really don't have much pull in terms of what happens next.
I think that should explain why there is no double standard. There are just differences and what you perceive as critique is often "holding them to a higher standard because THEY and WE claim and desire a higher standard?.
I don't think you should have a problem with higher standards.
I think that should explain why there is no double standard. There are just differences and what you perceive as critique is often "holding them to a higher standard because THEY and WE claim and desire a higher standard?.
I don't think you should have a problem with higher standards.
It's called racism of lower expectations, like the Arabs are untermensch. Disgusting.
The problem is that far more egregious actions by worse nations get either mild criticism or a free pass whereas Israel faces a constant assault on its legitimacy. Tibet threatened no one yet there is no criticism of China's brutal occupation of Tibet. Ditto the Soviet Union's takeover of the Kurile Islands with no regard for the rights of the islanders. Or for that matter North Vietnam's blatant disregard of the Paris Peace Treaty. Israel's territorial occupations and acquisitions came as a response to a failed attempt to "push Israel into the sea."
It's the double standard that rankles.
But Israel gets billions of dollars from the us, and they demolish Palestinians homes so they can take the land and build Jewish only settlements. There are legitimate grievances Palestinians have and that Israelis have as well. Israel has the obligation to defend itself from hamas and rocket attacks, and it is right to do so. However, I think the way Israel treats Palestinians is pretty bad. Is holding that opinion anti Semitic?? The Jews came to Palestine , not the other way around. And Netanyahu is whining about demographics and arabs Israelis becoming a higher percentage of the Israeli population, when it's Jews who decided to go to an Arab Muslim Palestine, filled with Arab muslims, and he thinks he has a right to criticize demographic changes.
And what about other foreign countries' horrible mistreatment of Muslims? Or, for that matter, Arab countries' horrible mistreatment of Jews? (They stole the property of and expelled close to 1 million Jews in the 20th century.) Seems like the only two countries you criticize are America and Israel.
Are you admitting that Palestinian Muslims are mistreated by Israelis?
The USA government wouldn't give damn about Jews and Israel were it not for those Americans who take the Bible as the inerrant word of G-d.
The Jews must all be in their homeland for the return of Christ and the millennium.
IMO, if the world was suffering guilt after what the Germans did, the could have given Germany to the Jews.
You can't deny the power of the Jewish power brokers in Washington and in the media. And I think this is where the Democrats needs to be careful if the Israeli issue isn't to split their party apart. Most of the power brokers in the media and in Washington are Jewish and while they typically stay out of domestic American affairs or are liberal, this will change if Israel's interests are threatened. For example I'm sure that unless Ilhan Omar and AOC tone down their anti-Israel rhetoric, the Jewish power brokers in the media will exercise their influence and soon they won't be media darlings anymore, we might start seeing more articles critical of their policies and the Green New Deal. IN Washington, they might see their proposals defeated or not put up to a vote.
I do think when push comes to shove and the Jewish power brokers feel their own country is threatened, despite their personal liberalism they will turn against many of the Democrats on the left. After all its Trump who is pro-Israel, and the leader of the Jewish people, Prime Minister Netanyahu, is very supportive of President Trump. Its similar to how during the Civil War regardless of personal politics, when Lincoln declared war on the South, all Southerners regardless of their views rallied behind their own.
Again it seems like everyone is skirting aroundthe issue. If we give billions to Israel but we give zero to Myanmar and Syria. Should we critique the government we give millions to?
Again it seems like everyone is skirting around the issue. If we give billions to Israel but we give zero to Myanmar and Syria. Should we critique the government we give millions to?
We sure are skirting the issue. For 2019, the US will spend $3.8 Billion on Military assistance which everyone speaks about, yet for Syria the US will spend over $16 Billion for the same year which no one speaks about.
Again it seems like everyone is skirting aroundthe issue. If we give billions to Israel but we give zero to Myanmar and Syria. Should we critique the government we give millions to?
It's been noted many times that we have a right to critique Israel because of all the financial support we provide.
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We sure are skirting the issue. For 2019, the US will spend $3.8 Billion on Military assistance which everyone speaks about, yet for Syria the US will spend over $16 Billion for the same year which no one speaks about.
If we give billions to a country, that is our problem, not theirs.
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