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I've noticed many a thing from your comments too, but how many times can I explain that pointing at other topics is neither justification or defense related to the topic at hand! Again and again, if you/we want to focus on criticism related to other events going on elsewhere, no problem! Start the thread. Let me know what it is!
Meanwhile the topic here is Israel and/or anti-semitism. Right?!? Accordingly, that is my focus HERE AND NOW.
Imagine if every time I criticized America's relationship with Saudi Arabia, someone argued "but what about North Korea," and then accused me of being a Sunni Muslim hater. Just how dumb can this sort of tactic be and still be repeated over and over?
Again please have mercy...
And how many times do I have to explain to YOU that it is the double standard which reveals antisemitism, and the only way to show that is to compare it to the response related to other events/country. That's the topic - the double standard among leftists.
Are you curious because of all your prior unjustified accusations about leftists?
Except he answered me, and he isn't an extreme leftist. He's quite reasonable.
And my accusation? That often antisemitism and condemnation of Israel are linked, especially when a double standard is obvious? How can you even doubt that? Just look at BDS, supported by Democrats. Look at how people make excuses for the much worse behavior of Arabs. Double standard. Double standard. Double standard.
And please stop saying how you are spending so much effort "explaining things to me" as if I'm an idiot. It's very arrogant to assume that anyone who disagrees with your opiniom is too stupid to follow your explanation. You actually remind me of a Christian Evangelist who kept harassing me that I was going to go to hell, and I kept telling him I didn't want to hear anymore. His response always was, "OK, let me explain again so you'll understand." Believe me, I understood - I just wasn't buying what he was selling!
Plz stop with leftist hating jew nonsense.some of my dem leftist friends are jewish and two are children of holocaust survives . my own child is part jewish and has included them self in both jewish and Christian culture.
And how many times do I have to explain to YOU that it is the double standard which reveals antisemitism, and the only way to show that is to compare it to the response related to other events/country. That's the topic - the double standard among leftists.
I agree, 100%. I cringe when others post that it's Israel's policies to which they object. That makes no sense. Israel's defense policies are no different than any other country's. When their sovereign land is attacked, they defend it. But the anti-Semites object to Israel doing the same.
Have you complimented or sided with ANY comment that wasn't entirely in line with your agenda here?
That poster was definitely antisemitic, saying Jews acted like they were better than anyone else. And the sneak even used end quotes so as to make it difficult, if not impossible, to refute him. (Is ANY awful comment antisemitic to you? I bet you think Omar doesn't have an anti-Jew bone in her body, hmmmmm?)
And what conspiratorial "agenda" are you talking about? Another Jewish conspiracy, with all their secret agendas?
Keep talking. You're showing your colors with every post.
Plz stop with leftist hating jew nonsense.some of my dem leftist friends are jewish and two are children of holocaust survives . my own child is part jewish and has included them self in both jewish and Christian culture.
using an old quote"can't we all just get along"!
Not when we have CLEARLY anti-Semitic Dem Congress members and 2020 presidential hopefuls.
I agree, 100%. I cringe when others post that it's Israel's policies to which they object. That makes no sense. Israel's defense policies are no different than any other country's. When their sovereign land is attacked, they defend it. But the anti-Semites object to Israel doing the same.
Precisely! And the entire message of the thread was that antisemitism is at play when double standards are applied to Israel, and in order to show the double standards, one has to show how the attitude is different with other countries. And then the answer comes back.....stop comparing to other countries. Well.....that's the double standard! They only want to focus their condemnation on Israel.
And how many times do I have to explain to YOU that it is the double standard which reveals antisemitism, and the only way to show that is to compare it to the response related to other events/country. That's the topic - the double standard among leftists.
But what if someone doesn't accept that standard, as logically or practically valid? But forgetting that objection for now ... who's the "boss" of standard-setting?
From what I can tell different double-standards have been proffered by various organizations, with the definitions themselves in conflict. For example, per an earlier post one of the double standard tests is to compare Israeli policies to those of another democratic country. That sure isn't being followed by most here.
More ... there's concern among some Israelis that annexation without citizenship for Palestinian residents will leave the country no longer democratic, where it would then "fail" a double standard comparison to a democratic country - and arguably without the "accuser" being anti-Semitic even by that relatively high standard.
I agree, 100%. I cringe when others post that it's Israel's policies to which they object. That makes no sense. Israel's defense policies are no different than any other country's. When their sovereign land is attacked, they defend it. But the anti-Semites object to Israel doing the same.
With Americans money. THAT is where the objection lies. To ignore that is dishonest.
But what if someone doesn't accept that standard, as logically or practically valid? But forgetting that objection for now ... who's the "boss" of standard-setting?
From what I can tell different double-standards have been proffered by various organizations, with the definitions themselves in conflict. For example, per an earlier post one of the double standard tests is to compare Israeli policies to those of another democratic country. That sure isn't being followed by most here.
More ... there's concern among some Israelis that annexation without citizenship for Palestinian residents will leave the country no longer democratic, where it would then "fail" a double standard comparison to a democratic country - and arguably without the "accuser" being anti-Semitic even by that relatively high standard.
The antisemites want it so they can be free to apply their double standards re broad condemnation of Israel and Isrselis. Then they can dump to their heart's content, conflating hate of Israel with hate for Jews, and never be criticized for their blatant hostility toward Jews. If you heard all the nasty screaming about "Jews" during BDS protests, you'd know this isn't just about policy, at least in that case. It's driven by hate for Jews.
And the attempts to justify it are really telling as well. For example, when someone pointed out how countries capture territory when they are attacked by enemies (or even if they start the war), the answer was: well, because it's been like that in the past, why should it be that way for Israel now? Same thing for a discussion on how Arab countries expelled and stole the land of nearly 1 million Jews: the answer was, well, just because other countries did that in the past, why should Isrsel get away with it now?
So the question is, why was all this acceptable in the past, and new and different standards are now being applied to the Jewish State?
And finally, why do we never hear of the wonderful humanitarian efforts Israel bestows on the Arabs who hate them? Do you know that Israel provides life-saving medical treatment to Syrians critically wounded by Syria? Do you think Syrians would ever rush in to save Isrseli lives? (That's just a single example. I could start an entirely new thread on all the wonderful things Israel does, but that would really draw out the antisemites.)
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