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Old 04-17-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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One more comment to Travis (and anyone else interested):

The Arab expulsion of Jews reduced the number of Jews living in these countries from nearly 1 million to around only 8,000 today. The following gives a nice timeline of the numerous expulsions Jews have endured (the most infamous one being the 1492 expulsion from Spain) which you may find of interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...oduses_of_Jews

 
Old 04-17-2019, 09:05 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Sadly, high Jewish populations mean highly progressive, left leaning schools. That’s the worst place for them to be. As I know you know, roughly 75% of Jews are liberals, which aligns them nicely with BDS, Omar, Roger Waters, Obama and similar anti Semitic people/orgs. Very sad.
I personally am an extreme leftist but would never harm someone wearing a yarmulke.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 12:58 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Yes what happened with the Palestinians was simply a population exchange between the Jews and Arabs, just like between India and Pakistan during the partition of British India.

Every single Arab and Muslim country expelled its Jewish population after 1948 despite most of them not having anything to do with Israel's establishment. But the Arabs and Muslims expelled them anyway forcing them to go to Israel. This means the Palestinians should have no right to "return" to Israel as long as Jews don't have the right to return to Baghdad, Damascus, and Tehran.

Btw this also shows that religious and ethnic minorities are not truly accepted in the Arab Muslim world or seen as equal fellow citizens whether the be Jews, Yazidis or Kurds. Iraqi Jews were never seen as Iraqi hence why Iraq took its vengeance out on them after Israel was created, same with the Jews in Morocco, Egypt and every other Arab or Muslim nation.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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Can you give a brief few lines of summary of what it says? I think I saw another book from the same author which lists out the current issues of the world. ANd its about religion, politics and the common things what everyone already hears.
Not sure what "everyone already hears," but I've read in this book what I think everyone should hear. Seriously consider anyway...

You can easily Google for any number of summaries, but here's one from Wikipedia that sums it up pretty well:

Harari's work situates its account of human history within a framework provided by the natural sciences, particularly evolutionary biology: he sees biology as setting the limits of possibility for human activity, and sees culture as shaping what happens within those bounds. The academic discipline of history is the account of cultural change.

Harari surveys the history of humankind from the evolution of archaic human species in the Stone Age up to the twenty-first century, focusing on Homo sapiens. He divides the history of Sapiens into four major parts:

The Cognitive Revolution (c. 70,000 BCE, when Sapiens evolved imagination).
The Agricultural Revolution (c. 10,000 BCE, the development of agriculture).
The unification of humankind (the gradual consolidation of human political organisations towards one global empire).
The Scientific Revolution (c. 1500 CE, the emergence of objective science).

Harari's main argument is that Sapiens came to dominate the world because it is the only animal that can cooperate flexibly in large numbers. He argues that prehistoric Sapiens were a key cause of the extinction of other human species such as the Neanderthals, along with numerous other megafauna. He further argues that the ability of Sapiens to cooperate in large numbers arises from its unique capacity to believe in things existing purely in the imagination, such as gods, nations, money, and human rights. Harari claims that all large-scale human cooperation systems – including religions, political structures, trade networks, and legal institutions – owe their emergence to Sapiens' distinctive cognitive capacity for fiction. Accordingly, Harari regards money as a system of mutual trust and sees political and economic systems as more or less identical with religions.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yes what happened with the Palestinians was simply a population exchange between the Jews and Arabs, just like between India and Pakistan during the partition of British India.

Every single Arab and Muslim country expelled its Jewish population after 1948 despite most of them not having anything to do with Israel's establishment. But the Arabs and Muslims expelled them anyway forcing them to go to Israel. This means the Palestinians should have no right to "return" to Israel as long as Jews don't have the right to return to Baghdad, Damascus, and Tehran.

Btw this also shows that religious and ethnic minorities are not truly accepted in the Arab Muslim world or seen as equal fellow citizens whether the be Jews, Yazidis or Kurds. Iraqi Jews were never seen as Iraqi hence why Iraq took its vengeance out on them after Israel was created, same with the Jews in Morocco, Egypt and every other Arab or Muslim nation.
The Muslim religion or certain parts of it regard any gain of territory to be permanent and all conquered lands part of the Ummah. They do not regard this as a "population exchange."They regard the extirpation, by way of death, expulsion or conversion of infidels, to be a sacred duty.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Exclamation Brief history showing why anti-Semitism will never be accepted in USA (part 5)

America was an invention, an experiment, but if so who were the inventors?

There were two 'enlightenments' that led to the invention. One was the Scottish Enlightenment of the 17th-18th century, . It could be summarized by a quote from John Locke(1632-1704): " Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has a right to, but himself."

But before this, there was a 'Jewish Enlightenment' which could be summarized by Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him...."

The former quote flows directly from the latter one. These were the ideas that made USA possible.

It was arguably the Jewish prophet Ezekiel who first formed the idea of individual rights and responsibilities which became the foundation stone of USA.

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God, wrote Ezekiel, no longer punished people collectively for the sin of a leader, or the present generation for the faults of their ancestors. 'As I live,' God insisted thunderously, the old Israelite saying, 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge', was no longer true...each was individually responsible to him [God]...With Ezekiel it became paramount, and thereafter individual accountability became of the very essence of the Jewish religion." (History of the Jews by Paul Johnson, p. 82)
It is fitting and not often remembered that at the public feast to celebrate the new constitution in Philadelphia in 1789, there was a special table with food that conformed to Jewish dietary laws (see J.J Blau and S.W. Baron, The Jews in the United States p. xxvii).

USA can no more turn its back on the Jewish people than on Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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America was an invention, an experiment, but if so who were the inventors?

There were two 'enlightenments' that led to the invention. One was the Scottish Enlightenment of the 17th-18th century, . It could be summarized by a quote from John Locke(1632-1704): " Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has a right to, but himself."

But before this, there was a 'Jewish Enlightenment' which could be summarized by Genesis 1:27: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him...."

The former quote flows directly from the latter one. These were the ideas that made USA possible.

It was arguably the Jewish prophet Ezekiel who first formed the idea of individual rights and responsibilities which became the foundation stone of USA.

It is fitting and not often remembered that at the public feast to celebrate the new constitution in Philadelphia in 1789, there was a special table with food that conformed to Jewish dietary laws (see J.J Blau and S.W. Baron, The Jews in the United States p. xxvii).

USA can no more turn its back on the Jewish people than on Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison.
Sometimes these perspectives seem to place Judaism at the center of the universe let alone America. How does that happen I wonder given hardly 2 percent of Americans are adherents to Judaism? Even the Bible, also hardly considered a book worth quoting let alone believing by billions of people on the planet doesn't seem to rank as high. Times like these I'm always glad for the "miracle" of the very first amendment of the U.S. constitution...
 
Old 04-26-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Sometimes these perspectives seem to place Judaism at the center of the universe let alone America. How does that happen I wonder given hardly 2 percent of Americans are adherents to Judaism? Even the Bible, also hardly considered a book worth quoting let alone believing by billions of people on the planet doesn't seem to rank as high. Times like these I'm always glad for the "miracle" of the very first amendment of the U.S. constitution...
Remember, Christians also use the Old Testament, and they are far more than 2% of the population. And even the Koran is a severely edited version of the Old Testament. The ideas are Hebraic in origin.
 
Old 04-27-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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Remember, Christians also use the Old Testament, and they are far more than 2% of the population. And even the Koran is a severely edited version of the Old Testament. The ideas are Hebraic in origin.
I was referring specifically to adherents of Judaism...

How much any of the rest matters I'm really not too sure other than to note what matters most is largely a function of "location, location, location."
 
Old 04-30-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I'm seeing more and more that OP was very justified in expressing her concern in post #1. Here in Seattle there is to be an "Intersectional community dialogue on weaponizing charges of anti-Semitism." It will take place Thursday in downtown Seattle.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/interse...ts-60506424344
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Please join us for this intersectional community dialogue to unpack the underlying dynamics of anti-Black racism, Islamophobia, patriarchy, and the conflation of Judaism and Israel, that are fueling the weaponization of charges of purported antisemitism.
We shall see, but it sounds very much like an effort by progressives to minimize progressive anti-Semitism, and to turn anti-Semitic incidents/speech into an exercise in 'blame the victim.'

Local Jewish conservative radio talk host Jason Rantz says that he plans to attend the event, and so will have a report on his Friday program, which runs 3PM-6PM (pacific time). If interested you can hear it on-line or via podcast. It's on 770 KTTH.
https://twitter.com/jasonrantz?ref_s...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
https://mynorthwest.com/?
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