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Proof that CO2 does not drive climate is to be found during the Ordovician-Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods (approx 450 and 150 million years ago, respectively) when CO2 levels were greater than 4,000 ppm and about 2,000 ppm, respectively. If the IPCC AGW/ACC theory is correct, there should have been runaway greenhouse induced global warming during those periods but instead there was glaciation.
Current CO2 level is slightly more than 400 ppm. Compare at will.
You're making a fool of yourself. /SMH
Again answered in the videos. But I see you ignored my points completely. You told me to look at the graph you posted. Now that I did that and commented on it an told you what the actual scientist said you just jump-off into another misunderstanding you have. That's ok you can wallow in whatever nonsense you like. Again your own sources for the graph disagree with you and Cailon et al said again:
'This sequence of events is still in full agreement with the idea that Co2 plays, through its greenhouse effect, a key role in amplifying the initial orbital forcing. First, the 800 year lag time is short in comparison with the total duration of the tempt. and Co2 increases. Second, the Co2 increases clearly precede the Northern Hemisphere degalciation.'
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03-06-2019, 05:29 PM
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Nope.
Proof that CO2 does not drive climate is to be found during the Ordovician-Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods (approx 450 and 150 million years ago, respectively) when CO2 levels were greater than 4,000 ppm and about 2,000 ppm, respectively. If the IPCC AGW/ACC theory is correct, there should have been runaway greenhouse induced global warming during those periods but instead there was glaciation.
Current CO2 level is slightly more than 400 ppm. Compare at will.
You're making a fool of yourself. /SMH
Again, see 3:40 in the video: Try to answer the question in the video - Why was it much hotter than today, 22C+, on either side of this brief ice age even though solar output was 4% less than today if CO2 is not a main factor?
Since the predicted "global warming" never happened (the models were wrong, of course... GIGO), the AGW religious zealots changed it to ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change), but they're only fooling the stupid.
The only one who sounds stupid here is a person who makes claims that are not accurate.
I would not be rolling my eyes at anyone when you make stupid claims as you just did.
03-06-2019, 05:37 PM
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Since the predicted "global warming" never happened (the models were wrong, of course... GIGO), the AGW religious zealots changed it to ACC (Anthropogenic Climate Change), but they're only fooling the stupid.
Yeah sure, that's why in 1955 there was a paper called 'The CO2 Theory of Climatic Change'
Really? I call more BS. What exactly are you accusing me of not being able to explain?
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Um, it merely mentions the Mid-Pleistocene in passing, but does not explain what caused it.
You claimed that scientist don't know what caused the Mid-Pleistocene?
Data suggest that the likely cause of mid-Pliocene warmth was a combination of several factors, including increased heat transport from equatorial regions to the poles and increased greenhouse gases.
I know deniers like to cherry pick. How about ALL the other lines of evidence we have?
Surface weather station measurements
Satellite measurements show that the troposphere is warming
The stratosphere is cooling as predicted by anthropogenic global warming theory (this cannot be explained by solar variability)
Temperatures at the ocean surface and at various ocean depths show warming as far down as 1500 meters
Sea level rise
Gravitometric measurements of Greenland and Antarctica show net ice loss
Sea-ice loss in the Arctic is dramatically accelerating
Acceleration of glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica, particularly within the last few years.
The rise of the tropopause
Poleward migration of species
Increased intensity of hurricanes as expected from rising sea surface temperatures
Accelerating decline of glaciers throughout the world
Rise in temperatures at greater depths in the permafrost
Rapid expansion of thermokarst lakes throughout parts of Siberia, Canada and Alaska
Changes in ocean circulation as predicted by climate models, for example, with temperatures rising more quickly overland
Disintegration of permafrost coastlines in the arctic
Changes in the altitude of the stratosphere
An energy imbalance - the earth is receiving more energy than it emits (Hansen 2005)
movement of the jet streams (Archer 2008, Seidel 2007, Fu 2006)
Widening of the tropical belt (Seidel 2007, Fu 2006)
Direct observations find that CO2 is rising sharply due to human activity. Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.
If nothing is done to slow down CO2 emissions climate change will make you much poorer, with a lower standard of living and quality of life. The inevitable food shortages, coastal flooding, inland flooding, killer heat waves, etc. will eventually convince the climate deniers one by one.
Being conservative means living between your means and being good stewards to Earth for future generations. What do I know. It's a antonym world we live in where conservative means something else now.
"He who laughs last laughs best".....Time alone will prove deniers wrong. Too bad I likely won't be here to see it.
Are you familiar with this saying?
There's a sucker born every minute.
The earth has been here for billions of years, but now you want people to believe it only has twelve years left. Please. You're a rube.
03-06-2019, 06:56 PM
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Are you familiar with this saying?
There's a sucker born every minute.
The earth has been here for billions of years, but now you want people to believe it only has twelve years left. Please. You're a rube.
No, where was anyone trying any such thing on here.
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