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Old 02-26-2019, 06:28 PM
 
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Like it or not Russia is a player there. They share a border with NK and have many deals going on and in the works.

Like it or not Russia is a player the world over. Get used to it.

 
Old 02-27-2019, 12:10 AM
 
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Possibly because he does not want NK to have nukes...


But you're cool with obama having dinner with castro.....


https://abcnews.go.com/Photos/presid...ry?id=37823834
NK will have nukes no matter what that fool of a president thinks.
Obama having talks with Castro was about instituting normal relationships with a country 90 miles off our southern border a totally different set of circumstances.https://www.essence.com/news/ways-pr...uba-relations/
 
Old 02-27-2019, 03:57 AM
 
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Putin’s goal here is to strengthen N.K. while making the U.S. look weak.

Last time around, Kim burnished his image on the world stage, and got Trump to cancel the joint military training exercises with S.K.

U.S. got nothing in return.

Trump didn't even get his coveted Nobel Peace Prize.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 04:03 AM
 
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Russia supported N.K. nuclear capability that grew into its current missile program.

The two nations signed a mutual-defense pact in 1961 and another treaty 2000. Though they share only an 11 mile border, Russia benefits from having a nuclear power representing their interests in the region.

There is no scenario in which Putin would support realistic denuclearization of N.K. It is simply not in Russia or his interest to do so.

Putin and Kim's goal this time around is likely to get Trump offer to offer economic aid, or at least ease economic sanctions.

This would allow the ruling elite to prosper and protect them from unrest.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 04:07 AM
 
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China would be a logical partner in these talks.

But Russia?

Something else is going on here.
China is also a partner in these talks.

China

Russia has a border with North Korea and breaks treaties to help them - at least in the past. Why wouldn't they be involved?



 
Old 02-27-2019, 05:02 AM
 
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If Russia needs to be involved, then why are they not at the table as part of the team at the summit?

Doing back room deals with Trump is suspicious as hell.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 05:10 AM
 
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If Russia needs to be involved, then why are they not at the table as part of the team at the summit?

Doing back room deals with Trump is suspicious as hell.
They're doing deals with NK, not Trump.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 05:28 AM
 
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It makes sense for Russia to be at this meeting, especially if anything big comes out of it like a peace treaty between the US and NK. Both China and Russia see NK as a buffer between their countries and the US-Japan-SK alliance. I am sure Russia wants to keep that buffer strong militarily.

Trump is so desperate for a win after getting trashed over his wall, and he covets a Nobel, that he is the wrong guy to be negotiating. He will give away the farm. He criticized Obama for exactly what he is doing. At least the Obama treaty with Iran left Iran without nukes. I will be surprised if NK ever gives up theirs.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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It makes sense for Russia to be at this meeting, especially if anything big comes out of it like a peace treaty between the US and NK. Both China and Russia see NK as a buffer between their countries and the US-Japan-SK alliance. I am sure Russia wants to keep that buffer strong militarily.
Exactly. I don't know why fools are thinking Trump is colluding with Russia on this. Russia's best interest is to keep NK a nuclear threat to US allies in the Pacific.
 
Old 02-27-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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Exactly. I don't know why fools are thinking Trump is colluding with Russia on this. Russia's best interest is to keep NK a nuclear threat to US allies in the Pacific.
It is indeed in Russia's best interest to keep N.K. a nuclear threat.

It is also in their best interest for sanctions to be eased so that N.K. can pay for building their nuclear capabilities.

So why is Trump taking advice from Putin's minister, Lavrov?

What possible advice would be in the U.S.'s best interest?
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