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Old 02-26-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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It has door handles but they are not mechanical, AFAIK if there is no power they will not work. The inside has mechanical release in case there is loss of power. Thinking about this further I'm not sure what the point is of having a needlessly over engineered half assed mechanical door handle that is only used to operate a switch.

This is a huge safety flaw in Tesla's vehicles. Not only can't you easily open the door if the power fails, but in cold environments, the electrical release mechanism easily freezes up. Other high end vehicles, say the Mercedes-Benz S-Class, stick with mechanical door latches. (and they look quite fabulous in doing so).


I understand there is some sort of emergency release for those Tesla doors, but you actually have to know where it is and how to use it.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Probably. So it's really just collateral damage expected when introducing new technology. Kind of like the Apollo, Challenger and Columbia astronauts (I wasn't the one who said that first, look back in the thread). Kind of and eggs and omelette kind of thing.

Anyway, every one knows it's Trump's fault.
Well, that was random.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No battery, no computer, no door handle.....couldn't get the door open...witnesses that tried to help had to watch him burn up

No thank you....with all the fake cigarettes blowing up and killing people...cell phones, lap tops, etc
..maybe we should all slow down a little and wait until all this "technology" is safer

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/2...rash-in-davie/
It's one of the reasons when I go shopping for a new vehicle, I always get manual windows and locks.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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Speaking of overengineering and doors that won't open - your tax dollars at work:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...ally-suitable/
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Unfortunate, but true. We didn't stop the space program when three astronauts died in a fire on the launchpad in 1967 or when the Challenger exploded in 1986. When you are advancing new technology accidents often happen. The alternative is to stop innovating, and no one wants that.
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Common sense^^^^^^. A sparse commodity on Internet forums inundated with regressives of the Trump era.
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Well, that was random.
Random? Really?
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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This is a huge safety flaw in Tesla's vehicles. Not only can't you easily open the door if the power fails, but in cold environments, the electrical release mechanism easily freezes up. Other high end vehicles, say the Mercedes-Benz S-Class, stick with mechanical door latches. (and they look quite fabulous in doing so).
Yeah...such a huge safety issue that the Tesla is still considered the safest vehicle ever made.

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I understand there is some sort of emergency release for those Tesla doors, but you actually have to know where it is and how to use it.
Well in this model (the model S) the "emergency release" is built into the same latch you use for opening the door. IE if you pull on the door latch the emergency release works when the normal one doesn't.


In the model 3 its in the usual place a door latch is, and as per my friend everyone tries that first because its where most manufacturers put their door release.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No battery, no computer, no door handle.....couldn't get the door open...witnesses that tried to help had to watch him burn up

No thank you....with all the fake cigarettes blowing up and killing people...cell phones, lap tops, etc
..maybe we should all slow down a little and wait until all this "technology" is safer

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/2...rash-in-davie/
He was doing 75-90 mph, and the car burst into flames on impact. What would you have done to save him?
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:58 PM
 
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It's one of the reasons when I go shopping for a new vehicle, I always get manual windows and locks.
Same here, but it's more of a "less crap that can break" thing. Stick shift, too.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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Yeah. Guess what? My mechanical door freezes too.

I've had them freeze but not very often, that design is almost made to freeze. and I cant open the vehicle. And unlike the Tesla I cant remotely turn on my vehicles heat to melt it.



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And the inner door handle works like that.
I know that and already mentioned this fact myself.



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Well other then having a exterior door handle both retract,
This IMO is poor design, it may be cool but not very practical. Certainly doable mechanically, they need some engineers from the early part of the last century. Remove that feature and it becomes pretty easy to implement and much more reliable. You are creating a lot of problems for something that can be simple mechanical device and accommodate any of the real benefits of also being electrically operated.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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I always get manual windows and locks.

Depends on the vehicle but on mine they can be manually unlocked. My buddy had Ram truck and the locking knob was recessed so it would be impossible to unlock with the knob, you could only lock it. I guess it's possible the door would unlock using the door handle from the inside but that raises the question of whehter it is disabled during travel and if it will work without power. Lot of interesting questions about how many vehicles operate.
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