Multiple Whooping cough clusters hit Los Angeles: Some schools have as many as 30 cases

[mike1003]

Originally Posted by lovecrowds

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...506424551.html

I wonder if liberals will just say it's the price of living in a big city?

Liberals will say that epidemics are the price that has to paid to be around world-class ballet, street food trucks, expensive martini bars and 5-star white-table cloth restaurants with large reservation lists.

Typhus? Hepatitis? Whooping cough? What is next.

Wonder how many outbreaks it will take before they admit that LA really is just becoming nothing more than a big incubator of infectious disease?

Big Typhus, Hepatitis outbreaks and now Whopping Cough spreading very fast in LA with as many 30 students at a school with Whooping cough.

This is what happens when you combine anti vaxxers and illegal aliens.

And, the numbers of cases are going to inc dramatically.

Next is TB, measles (already increasing), polio..All diseases that were almost eradicated in the US.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by mike1003

This is what happens when you combine anti vaxxers and illegal aliens.

And, the numbers of cases are going to inc dramatically.

Next is TB, measles (already increasing), polio..All diseases that were almost eradicated in the US.

Actually, the countries of Central and South America for the most part have as good or better vaccination rates than the US, and certainly higher rates than in anti-vax areas of the US, one of which is southern California. Measles is being brought in mostly from Europe, the Philippines and Israel. There is no polio except in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and you have to prove you have been vaccinated for it to leave Pakistan. There have only been a handful of cases this past year. I would be interested in hearing about any big surge in TB, particularly of TB being brought in from the south.

Here are the OCED rates for DTP and measles (2017): https://data.oecd.org/healthcare/chi...tion-rates.htm
US: DTP, 94%; measles 91%
Chile: DTP, 93%; measles 93%
Columbia: DTP, 92%; measles 93%
Costa Rica: DTP, 96%; measles 96%
Brazil: DTP, 89%; measles 97%
Mexico: DTP, 97%; measles 97%

Here are some more rates for various diseases including polio: https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-ca...cination-rates

For three doses of polio vaccine:
Nicaraugua, 98%
Honduras, 97%
Costa Rica, 96%
US, 93%
Mexico, 91%
El Salvador, 87%
Guatemala, 84%

Tuberculosis immunization ranges from 99% in Honduras to 81% in Guatemala. The US does not use the TB vaccine.

[Jo48]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Actually, the countries of Central and South America for the most part have as good or better vaccination rates than the US, and certainly higher rates than in anti-vax areas of the US, one of which is southern California. Measles is being brought in mostly from Europe, the Philippines and Israel. There is no polio except in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and you have to prove you have been vaccinated for it to leave Pakistan. There have only been a handful of cases this past year. I would be interested in hearing about any big surge in TB, particularly of TB being brought in from the south.

Here are the OCED rates for DTP and measles (2017): https://data.oecd.org/healthcare/chi...tion-rates.htm
US: DTP, 94%; measles 91%
Chile: DTP, 93%; measles 93%
Columbia: DTP, 92%; measles 93%
Costa Rica: DTP, 96%; measles 96%
Brazil: DTP, 89%; measles 97%
Mexico: DTP, 97%; measles 97%

Here are some more rates for various diseases including polio: https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-ca...cination-rates

For three doses of polio vaccine:
Nicaraugua, 98%
Honduras, 97%
Costa Rica, 96%
US, 93%
Mexico, 91%
El Salvador, 87%
Guatemala, 84%

Tuberculosis immunization ranges from 99% in Honduras to 81% in Guatemala. The US does not use the TB vaccine.

I thought DTP was replaced in the 90's with Dtap? I know the basis in layman's terms but you elaborate on the medical difference between the two. It does seem that the older version "worked" better than the newer one.

Back in the 70's hub's coworker's wife was diagnosed with TB. She lived in NY and had never traveled out of the country. Her husband and children were quarantined but never caught it. I can say that was the extent of it. None of her coworkers or friends, us included, were tested back then. No, that vaccine was not typically given back in those days either. I myself have had the TB test multiple times for work.

[Katarina Witt]

DTaP is a form of DTP. They both protect against the same diseases.

The US and the Netherlands are the only two countries in the world that have never used the TB vaccine (BCG). Kind of puts the kibosh on the idea that the US uses every vaccine that comes along. We also don't use Meningitis C vaccine for infants as many other countries do, including our neighbor to the north.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Jo48

I thought DTP was replaced in the 90's with Dtap? I know the basis in layman's terms but you elaborate on the medical difference between the two. It does seem that the older version "worked" better than the newer one.

Back in the 70's hub's coworker's wife was diagnosed with TB. She lived in NY and had never traveled out of the country. Her husband and children were quarantined but never caught it. I can say that was the extent of it. None of her coworkers or friends, us included, were tested back then. No, that vaccine was not typically given back in those days either. I myself have had the TB test multiple times for work.

Part II (I was in a restaurant and my food came up above!)

I am pretty surprised that none of the patient's co-workers or friends were tested.