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Old 07-14-2020, 12:15 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by erasure View Post
Nope. Not "left wing."
I can even tell you why.

Because in Hitler's particular case, the "collectivism" was supposed to serve one particular group of people of specifically German ethnicity.

So it was all about "race," - that was the primary goal.
The "collectivism" that was serving the achievement of this goal was secondary.

And racism is definitely right-wing, not left-wing.

So you are confusing the ultimate goal with the means of achieving it.
You haven't explained the similarities between Hitler/Nazis and the current US left:

It's the US left that is anti-Semitic, not the right. And it's the left that is also advocating/implementing the following, like Hitler:

Gun banning/control
Suppression of free speech
Censorship/banning of books, movies, etc.
Violent Kristallnacht-type riots
Confiscation of wealth for the purpose of redistribution
The "cancel culture" thought police
Collectivism
Etc.

History is repeating... You just refuse to recognize it for what it is.
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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But they did think they were the land the Sun rises from and that they were superior, their Emperor was god incarnate, and did try to take over most of the Pacific regions. The communist are imperialist too and don't stay in their own countries.

Truth to be told - no one "stays in their own countries."
Because in order to support one's country, the constant growth of economy is needed.

And this can't be achieved without the involvement of other countries/nations out there, that can be taken advantage of ( for the most part.)
And in order to keep those other nations/countries compliant/subjugated, the ideology is imported there as well.
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by erasure View Post
Nope. Not "left wing."
I can even tell you why.

Because in Hitler's particular case, the "collectivism" was supposed to serve one particular group of people of specifically German ethnicity.

So it was all about "race," - that was the primary goal.
The "collectivism" that was serving the achievement of this goal was secondary.

And racism is definitely right-wing, not left-wing.

So you are confusing the ultimate goal with the means of achieving it.
But in whereas the Marxist oppressor is an ever changing group of the privileged, the Nazi oppressor is the fixed "non-Aryan". In that sense, Nazism is a subset of Marxism. It doesn't matter if that group is race based, as is proven in the current movement where violence is advocated against white people.

It's fascism all over again, from the left
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:18 PM
 
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No he did not.
(There was no "religions" in the USSR to begin with.)
When it comes to "religions" elsewhere, Stalin recognized Israel as a new state ( and gave it his support) before the US did.
So check the facts first pls.

1. besides the fact that religion was officially allowed in super limited ways, what do you think happened to millions of religous people there before 1917?
2. his recognition of Israel by no means proves he didn't hate Jews, (leaving aside the geo political reasons in his quest for power) recognizing Israel could have easily led to the destruction of all Jews in Israel

there are literally books written about Stalin's hatred of Jews
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/archi...lin-hated-jews

keep pushing communist propaganda, there are only 2 possible rationals for pushing something so easily proven false (assuming sanity and basic intelligence).
1. you are a Stalinist
2. you hate Jews

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Old 07-14-2020, 12:18 PM
 
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But in whereas the Marxist oppressor is an ever changing group of the privileged, the Nazi oppressor is the fixed "non-Aryan". In that sense, Nazism is a subset of Marxism. It doesn't matter if that group is race based, as is proven in the current movement where violence is advocated against white people.

It's fascism all over again, from the left
Exactly.
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Must be some here just joking.

Just like Dalton Trumbo and all the communists around him, they referred to themselves as "liberal democrats". Just like Bernie Sanders today is "Independent" or runnning as "liberal democrat"...yet he TOOK HIS HONEYMOON IN COMMUNIST RUSSIA he loves communism so much.


No, I am not joking.

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Even if it's true - at least they didn't drag the whole bunch of people with them from some Urartu, and didn't force them to work for them.

Another thing they didn't do - they didn't claim to be "special in the eyes of the Lord" and the "shining beacon" for the rest of the world.

With other words, they didn't advertise their country as "desirable" for many other people from around the world, while exploiting them for pennies.
The Japanese were doing it all on their own.

For real.
And the entire northern portion of America had nothing to do with slavery. Moreover, a number of states weren't even states yet, and some were just in their infancy. They did not benefit off of slavery. In fact, my Minnesota actually suffered from slavery as we sent in one of the first brigades to fight and die for it - countless white men, dead for a cause that was unjust anyways (slavery would have ended without bloodshed in due time). And all the Deep South "refugees" that came to MN? Do you think that has done anything but cause misery in this state?


Furthermore, the STATES came before the Federal government. Which why each one has their own constitution.
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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You haven't explained the similarities between Hitler/Nazis and the current US left:

It's the US left that is anti-Semitic, not the right. And it's the left that is also advocating/implementing the following, like Hitler:

Gun banning/control
Suppression of free speech
Censorship/banning of books, movies, etc.
Violent Kristallnacht-type riots
Confiscation of wealth for the purpose of redistribution
The "cancel culture" thought police
Collectivism
Etc.

History is repeating... You just refuse to recognize it for what it is.

Because there are practically none)))


You, dearest Americans, are constantly trying to bring the comparisons with the "Old world," but you are not the "Old world" to begin with, your situation is unique, with unique set of circumstances, and so the definitions of the "Old world" simply DON'T FIT here for a number of reasons)))
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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But in whereas the Marxist oppressor is an ever changing group of the privileged, the Nazi oppressor is the fixed "non-Aryan". In that sense, Nazism is a subset of Marxism. It doesn't matter if that group is race based, as is proven in the current movement where violence is advocated against white people.

It's fascism all over again, from the left

Not that I am a big specialist of Marxism, but what is this "ever-changing group of the privileged?"
Who exactly are you referring to?
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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Because there are practically none)))
I listed several similarities between the US left and Hitler/Nazis:

Anti-Semitism
Gun banning/control
Suppression of free speech
Censorship/banning of books, movies, etc.
Violent Kristallnacht-type riots
Confiscation of wealth for the purpose of redistribution
The "cancel culture" thought police
Collectivism
Etc.

History is repeating... You just refuse to recognize it for what it is.*
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Old 07-14-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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For all of you poor, misinformed souls, this video is what Nazism is all about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvCkw87FLZk
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