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Old 02-28-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate opponents of President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the Mexican border moved within a hair Thursday of having enough votes to prevail, and one Republican suggested he risks a rebuff by the GOP-led chamber if he doesn't change course.

Trump's move would "turn a border crisis into a constitutional crisis," veteran Sen. Lamar Alexander said on the Senate floor. But he stopped just short of saying he'd support a resolution blocking the president's move. Had Alexander pledged his vote, it would probably be enough for the Senate to pass a measure repealing the emergency declaration.

https://wlos.com/news/nation-world/t...d-senate-votes

My question is, can Trump veto it if they vote no?
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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Yes, he can veto. So, while a rebuke in the GOP-led Senate would be an embarrassment to the administration, it would be of no consequence unless both the Senate and the House can muster enough votes for a veto-override, which does not look likely in the least.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Yes, he can veto. So, while a rebuke in the GOP-led Senate would be an embarrassment to the administration, it would be of no consequence unless both the Senate and the House can muster enough votes for a veto-override, which does not look likely in the least.
So if BOTH the house and Senate vote no, he can still veto it? Or is it over if they both vote no?
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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So if BOTH the house and Senate vote no, he can still veto it? Or is it over if they both vote no?
Correct. Both the House and the Senate have to vote no before the resolution can even get to the president's desk to sign or veto (legislation attempting to disapprove of executive action is not subject to a filibuster in the Senate, so only needs 51 votes to pass).

If both houses voted no, the president could decide to sign (which he won't), veto (in which case each house would have to muster a 2/3 majority vote to override the veto), or do nothing (in which case, the resolution would become law after a pre-determined amount of time).
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate opponents of President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the Mexican border moved within a hair Thursday of having enough votes to prevail, and one Republican suggested he risks a rebuff by the GOP-led chamber if he doesn't change course.

Trump's move would "turn a border crisis into a constitutional crisis," veteran Sen. Lamar Alexander said on the Senate floor. But he stopped just short of saying he'd support a resolution blocking the president's move. Had Alexander pledged his vote, it would probably be enough for the Senate to pass a measure repealing the emergency declaration.

https://wlos.com/news/nation-world/t...d-senate-votes

My question is, can Trump veto it if they vote no?
Yes, tRump can and likely will veto. Congress would then not be able to muster the needed 2/3 majority needed to override him.

It would then be given over to the courts where it would face a very stiff challenge on grounds of its constitutionality. Not to mention the lack of any crisis on the border beyond tRump's family separation policy.

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Old 02-28-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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Yes, he can veto. So, while a rebuke in the GOP-led Senate would be an embarrassment to the administration, it would be of no consequence unless both the Senate and the House can muster enough votes for a veto-override, which does not look likely in the least.
Meanwhile, Democrats and Establishment Republicans continue to remind us that they are enemies of anyone that works for a living or simply wants to reduce human trafficking and drug smuggling across our southern border.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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He'll veto it, and that'll be the end of it.
Just like any other President.


President asked for several things the legislature did not deliver. Now they are asking for something he won't deliver.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Meanwhile, Democrats and Establishment Republicans continue to remind us that they are enemies of anyone that works for a living or simply wants to reduce human trafficking and drug smuggling across our southern border.
You're absolutely right. I cannot for the life of me comprehend this embrace of illegal immigration by the left (from both Democrats and establishment Republicans). Its all about the check (in the case of establishment Republicans) or the vote (in the case of Democrats) and is sickening.
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Meanwhile, Democrats and Establishment Republicans continue to remind us that they are enemies of anyone that works for a living or simply wants to reduce human trafficking and drug smuggling across our southern border.
Human trafficking and drugs come through legal points of entry. So a wall wouldn't do any good.
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Old 02-28-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Human trafficking and drugs come through legal points of entry. So a wall wouldn't do any good.
Except for areas that have an actual wall, like SD. God some of you must actually live in Canada I swear.
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