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It is true. It is a fact we spend more money in education per child, but yet, we don't have the most educated children in the world, nor do we have the best education system in the world. Far from it. Why do you think for the most part, so many Americans going to public schools stride to get scholarships in athletics vs academics? Why are most of the young doctors today are coming from private schools or educated in other countries?
We don't have the best in the world. That wasn't the argument. There are pockets that are pretty bad. No one is arguing there is not. I supported the push in Cleveland to fund charter schools because the system there was pretty corrupt.
What happened was the charter schools became even more corrupt.
[quote=warhorse78;54565700]The educated society is going through private schools. The public schools are producing some of the least intelligent kids in the WORLD unless they just happen to go to public schools in upscale neighborhoods.[/QUOTE
The best public high schools in the US tend to be highly selective public schools located in economically diverse cities. These schools tend to outperform nearly all private schools, and do so despite the diversity of their student populations.
I call BS! I worked in a major grocery store for 8 years, and we also had carry out services, and it never failed. A big fat woman coming up with a cart full of groceries, including steaks, lobsters, you name it. She would pull out her SNAP, and then ask for cash back with it, like 20 bucks. And then she would give it to her loser husband/boyfriend/whatever who would use that money to buy beer and cigarettes. Then we would take their groceries to their car, which was always a high end SVU, be it a Mercedes, Cadillac, Audi, whatever with 3 or 4 kids in there on their Iphones or tablets, with their brand name shoes and clothing. I'm not saying everyone is like this who uses welfare, but when I worked in West Palm Beach, Florida, this was a very common occurrence. And is the reason why such women are called welfare queens.
Thank God that there is a small group of people on section 8 housing that is realizing what a scam this all is. It's taking away their integrity and a chance to make something better of themselves because they are trapped in this system. A program should be used to help you get on your feet when you are down, not to make it a way of life!
There is never a shortage of anecdotal evidence and hearsay to support any position.
Only fair tax is a flat tax applicable to gross income, regardless of the source of income.
Only "fair" tax is to add up .gov operational expenses and divide the cost amongst the population. What does it cost to keep the .gov and it's programs going?
Divided by population... what was it? 10k per person per year?
Might see more folks lose support of entitlement programs bureaucracies enforcement agencies military efforts and safety nets.
That's just for people. Not corporations.
Everyone pays the same.
Oh but children can't pay taxes? Then the tax bill increases per working person earning an income...
It is true. It is a fact we spend more money in education per child, but yet, we don't have the most educated children in the world, nor do we have the best education system in the world. Far from it. Why do you think for the most part, so many Americans going to public schools stride to get scholarships in athletics vs academics? Why are most of the young doctors today are coming from private schools or educated in other countries?
Money is meaningless. It’s all about purchasing power in a local economy.
The most populous country in the world often tops the list of international comparisons. They cheery- pick Provences and students within. Imagine if the US chose to only submit the scores from say, Mass, excluding all other under performing states. Imagine then, if the scores of some minority groups ( tribes) were further excluded. One would see the US rankings soar.
Conversely, the US could young students on a vocational track as is done in many countries and in doing so, make them exempt from tests subjected to international comparison.
There is no factual data supporting your claim that most young doctors attended private schools, K- 12.
As another poster pointed out, perhaps your experiences/ views are based upon your perception of things in your own state or community.
We don't have the best in the world. That wasn't the argument. There are pockets that are pretty bad. No one is arguing there is not. I supported the push in Cleveland to fund charter schools because the system there was pretty corrupt.
What happened was the charter schools became even more corrupt.
It's not the system. It's the people. For the vast majority of the country it is working very well.
It’s indeed the people.
Stands to reason , the 3rd most populous country in the world ( yet only 5% of the global population) with the most diverse population, would have all sorts of outcomes, good, bad and ugly.
Stands to reason , the 3rd most populous country in the world ( yet only 5% of the global population) with the most diverse population, would have all sorts of outcomes, good, bad and ugly.
The issue is not a refund. Generally speaking, corporations estimate quarterly tax liabilities and pay taxes on those estimates. When taxes paid are greater than the tax obligation, a refund is due.
It’s a curious thing that GM, Ford, Amazon, etc are singled out instead of the code
It’s even more curious that outrage is often manufactured based on perception of political leanings.
Amazon- bad
Trump Org- just using the code
Or vice versa.
Only fair tax is a flat tax.
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I agree. Not to mention, some of the biggest tax breaks go to those who use most of the things taxes pay for. Like, why should I, a single woman who did not want to have kids, have to pay high property taxes to fund schools and programs like free breakfasts and lunches for families who can't afford to feed their kids for whatever reason. But yet, those same parents also get to live in nice homes thanks to section 8, get Snap benefits to help pay for food, utilities, and seem to have money to drive around in brand new Mercedes Benz, and still get back 5000 or more in federal taxes. And for what? This arrangement is not fair. Rewarding the lazy while punishing the hard workers and risk takers that profited off of their risks. And, this is a system that is not sustainable. It will run out eventually.
well said. both of you.
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