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Old 03-03-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Trumpies will always be Trumpies. What Trump had in 2016 was more middle of the pack voters. He is losing those, certainly the women. If the economy goes south he will lose voters. If the Mueller report is damaging, he will lose voters. If the Dems dig up more dirt on him, he will lose voters. If SCOTUS finds against him and his BS emergency, he will lose voters. He barely won in 2016 so he can't afford to lose too many voters. All the Dems need to do is nominate anyone not named Hillary.
You think the blue collar, Midwestern D's who voted Trump in 2016 are coming back to vote for Kamala or Beto in 2020? Trump squashed NAFTA, brought manufacturing back to the US, raised wages, lowered unemployment, lowered their taxes, defended the 2nd amendment & Christianity. You think those blue collar, Midwestern D's are going to vote for squashing better trade deals, higher taxes, aborting live babies, open borders, banning guns & taking private health insurance away?

Women voters see border security as one of their main concerns. D's aren't doing themselves any favors pushing open borders & defending criminal illegal aliens.

Barely won in 2016? The final electoral count was 304-227. Not exactly a nail biter.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You think the blue collar, Midwestern D's who voted Trump in 2016 are coming back to vote for Kamala or Beto in 2020? Trump squashed NAFTA, brought manufacturing back to the US, raised wages, lowered unemployment, lowered their taxes, defended the 2nd amendment & Christianity. You think those blue collar, Midwestern D's are going to vote for squashing better trade deals, higher taxes, aborting live babies, open borders, banning guns & taking private health insurance away?

Women voters see border security as one of their main concerns. D's aren't doing themselves any favors pushing open borders & defending criminal illegal aliens.

Barely won in 2016? The final electoral count was 304-227. Not exactly a nail biter.
He only won PA, MI and WI by narrow margins. If he had lost those 3 states, he wouldn't have won
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Las Vegas betting odds has Trump as a solid favorite. A sitting President has huge advantages. Whoever comes beat up out of the Democrat circus primary will have their negatives up and the Trump campaign will work on that candidate some more.


remember, the Democrat Party got rid of Super Delegates. That means they will be fighting like cats and dogs for every vote in every state until late July 2020 and if Bernie doesn't win because the Democrat establishment will never give him the nomination or back him that will divide the Party with the progressives especially if an establishment Democrat wins like Biden.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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He only won PA, MI and WI by narrow margins. If he had lost those 3 states, he wouldn't have won
Less than 80K votes in those three states total.

That's not a signficiant win.

And most definitely if someone like Biden runs against him -- it could be tight in a state like PA or MI.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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I have to look at what happened in November 2016. While the Dems didn't make any great strides in the Senate....they did create some upsets in the House districts.

In my district --- a Republican stronghold --- the Republican candidate lost. She was a ride or die Trump supporter. That was the main core of her campaign. She lost.....that speaks volumes to me.

Are there shifts in some of the Republican districts against Trump.
Are there moderates that have gone with the trend in their district for years but now are ready to step out of their comfort box?

I think it is way too early....and I don't discount Trump's ability to create chaos and get another win.

It will be a fun election.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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WSJ and NBC conducted a poll and believe Trump is facing an uphill battle.

Not looking good for Mr. Trump.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...-trump-n978331
That's pretty weak sauce.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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He only won PA, MI and WI by narrow margins. If he had lost those 3 states, he wouldn't have won

Trump was outspent 3 to 1 and won those states. He will have the advantage in money this time to campaign.



Trump only needs one of those states to keep the W.H. if wins the rest of the other states he won in 2016 .......and you don't know who will be the Democrat nominee. The old NAFTA and TPP are not popular in the Midwest.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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Trump was outspent 3 to 1 and won those states. He will have the advantage in money this time to campaign.



Trump only needs one of those states to keep the W.H. if wins the rest of the other states he won in 2016 .......and you don't know who will be the Democrat nominee. The old NAFTA and TPP are not popular in the Midwest.
Not sure you are accurate about the old NAFTA and TPP.

Got some links to share to support your feelings on that.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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This polling group has put out abyssal nonsense for many years. Listener2307 exposed this "poll" very well.
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Old 03-03-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Welcome back to 2016.

Congrats President Trump.
No this is what is called buyers remorse.
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