Liars, Hoaxes and Chats Oh My! (health care, weapons, Clinton, Kennedy)

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
If only Obama hadn't let Putin interfere in our elections.


If only Mitch McConnell hadn’t pressured Obama NOT TO RELEASE the intel reports about Russian contacts with the Trump campaign before Election Day 2016...

If you are blaming Obama for NOT releasing the intel reports—
Then at least be honest about who else was pressuring Obama to stay quiet...

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1471...itch-mcconnell

And don’t claim the source for the info is tainted—
We all know that few reliable sources will complain about Trump’s ties to Russia
Fox still has plenty of commentators who refuse to admit that the water is wet...

[skeddy]

Originally Posted by loves2read

Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
If only Obama hadn't let Putin interfere in our elections.


If only Mitch McConnell hadn’t pressured Obama NOT TO RELEASE the intel reports about Russian contacts with the Trump campaign before Election Day 2016...

If you are blaming Obama for NOT releasing the intel reports—
Then at least be honest about who else was pressuring Obama to stay quiet...

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1471...itch-mcconnell

And don’t claim the source for the info is tainted—
We all know that few reliable sources will complain about Trump’s ties to Russia
Fox still has plenty of commentators who refuse to admit that the water is wet...

So you're saying the Russian interference is the Senate Majority Leaders fault ?? Not the President's?

[tripleh]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

While I do agree it would be better for the GOP if Trump resigned, I think it will do the country good to see this through.

Now that Mueller has failed you with Russiagate, is the next thing the Dems are going to try to peddle is resignation for no crime?

[loves2read]

More proof that Trump is more John-Bircher/alt-right member than a Populist or even a traditional Republican...talk about a “false flag” operation—-that is Trump heading the GOP...
Home of the new-alt-right syncophants...

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/04/t...ook/index.html

Of course he will spin it for his base—
Trump is likely dizzy with all the spinning he does hour to hour...

[WiseManOnceSaid]

In trumps first 500 days in office he has told 3,251 Falsehoods and Embellishments

This is an average of 4.5 per day.

This has cause a lot of people in America to flip out and consider Trump the Liar In Chief.

Here's a list of some of his most outright lies as pointed out by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...umps-lies.html

Psychologists wrote books on how unfit to lead the country Trump is.

Reviewing a book about the role of falsehood in the “Age of Trump,” MSNBC host Chris Matthews let it all hang out, declaring that the president “lies the way a woodpecker attacks a tree: compulsively, insistently, instinctively.” It feels, he wrote, “as if something has ripped in the fabric of reality of America at this moment.” He labeled Trump a “demagogue,” using the reigning cliché of the mainstream media about the president.

Funny thing is, this is nothing new: During his 1964 Presidential campaign, 1189 psychiatrists labled Barry Goldwater "psychologically unfit" to be President.

So, how do Trump's lies compare with other POTUS's lies?

Nixon: Watergate. Lied about the POTUS involvment in the break-in and coverup.
Kennedy: covered up his precarious health (Addison's disease), denied his extramarital affairs, and lied about the "missile gap" during his campaign.
Clinton: We all remember the Lewinsky thing right?
Obama:“If you like your health care plan you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”
Lyndon Johnson: We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.
George Bush and the weapons of mass destruction lies.

I feel like all politicians pander to their crowds. They all lie and switch positions.

In real estate we call it "puffing".

It just seems that everyone who's losing their marbles over Trump's lies have gotten stuck in the now and have forgotten that every, and I mean every single President has been caught in multiple lies in their times in office.

[trlhiker]

The big difference is that Trump lies daily and all of his are so easily exposed with simple videos. He often lies about what he has said in the past which are very easily proven. Trump has lied or misrepresented what he said over 10,000 times since becoming president. 10,000 times! That is mind boggling. No other President has come even close to that.

[tinytrump]

Nixon reincarnate

[skeddy]

"if you like your plan, you can keep your plan"


Trump would never tell a lie that big.

[odanny]

The updated total is now over 10,000 lies told since becoming elected.

A pathological liar who lies more than he tells the truth.

[WiseManOnceSaid]

Originally Posted by trlhiker

The big difference is that Trump lies daily and all of his are so easily exposed with simple videos. He often lies about what he has said in the past which are very easily proven. Trump has lied or misrepresented what he said over 10,000 times since becoming president. 10,000 times! That is mind boggling. No other President has come even close to that.

You're comparing apples to oranges though. Every word out of current politicians's mouths are fact-checked. Not by one person, but by anyone who has a computer or tablet or cell phone who cares enough to fact-check. Not just one person keeps score, million do.

Kennedy wasn't fact checked on every single statement during his tenure in office.
Neither was Reagan or any of them.

Not until the internet age hit us did we have such fact checking.

Compared to Obama, Trump has told more embellishments for sure.

How about compared to Clinton? Bush 2?