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Old 04-16-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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We’ve gone from “Fourscore and seven years ago” to “Nothing to fear but fear itself” to “Everything we have is documented and reported great,” which is how Trump responded to New York’s revised numbers. And you wonder why a new poll shows that 45 percent of Fox News viewers believe the coronavirus death toll numbers are inflated. The president said so!

~snip~

“A protest movement is taking hold targeting states that have extended social-distancing rules, closed schools, and restricted access to large religious gatherings,” reports The Daily Beast. “And it’s being fed by loyalists and political allies of President Donald Trump.”

These pro-Trump protests have been popping up in Idaho, North Carolina, Oklahoma, and other states that have not yet felt the full brunt of the pandemic. The most vivid example to date came just yesterday in Michigan, where thousands of right-wing protesters — a number of them packing AR-15s — swarmed the capitol building in Lansing to protest Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home order. “Lock her up!” they chanted, because of course they did.

~snip~

Even as Trump’s most ardent supporters crush themselves together to protest necessary coronavirus restraints, COVID hotspots have begun to bloom in regions that have been, to date, the geographic core of his support.

Nebraska, Idaho, South Dakota and other rural farm belt states are experiencing spikes in confirmed COVID cases. In Nebraska alone, the state’s health department reports a 30 percent increase in cases over the last three days. That is the accelerating curve New York, Massachusetts and Washington State can tell Nebraska all about.
- MORE at Truthout

This is an interesting story, but even a liberal like me finds the reporting to be a tad sensationalist.

"Support Trump and you die, suck-ahs!"

To be sure, social distancing and hand washing, etc. will give you more protection from CV and just as importantly, you also avoid spreading the disease to others. Nationwide. example abound of Church congregations who insisted on holding normal services in packed churches only to see afterward that their congregation members were dropping like flies. S. Dakota's hot spot was created when company managers refused to distribute PPE's to workers on the line despite the fact that workers had been urgently requesting gloves and masks for weeks.

The two examples above are tragic - especially since they could have been prevented. However it is difficult for me to believe that rural states like Iowa, N. Dakota, Nebraska, and even S. Dakota are going to be hit by horrific coronavirus conflagrations. The same thing that has protected these states so far - low population density - will continue to protect them. It's not about these places having large numbers of Trump supporters - a virus is indifferent to people's political persuasions.

The four states with the lowest population densities per mile are:

1) Alaska 1.3
2) Wyoming 6.0
3) Montana 7.1
4) North Dakota 11.0

The states with the highest population densities are:

1) District of Columbia 11,815
2) New Jersey 1,215
3) Rhode Island 1,021
4) Massachusetts 894
5) Connecticut 736
6) Maryland 627
7) Delaware 504
8) New York 413 (Even though NY comes in at 8, New York City is also the most highly populated city
in the United States.

- From World Population Review


Wow! Looks like the low population states are rural and trend Red. The highest density states are much more urbanized and tend Blue.

A virus which lives in an environment where there are zillions of people coughing and touching every surface in sight is going to have a much easier time spreading in NYC than a virus in Alaska which must wait around to hop on a passing dog team or hitch a ride with a bush pilot - that's if the cold doesn't kill it first. This is just simple population biology - that's all.

Those who take glee in the plight of Blue states and cities and accuse the hospitals there of inflating the list of their needs out of sheer greed could not be more wrong.

And those who just can't wait for rural Red states to be decimated by the coronavirus because this will be incontrovertible proof of Trump's ignorance and over-all malfeasance also could not be more wrong.

We can and do fight to the bitter end almost every political issue that arises. But when it comes to the Coronavirus, we all get sick and many will die all the same. This pandemic is taking the lives of AMERICANS - not political parties. We should remember that.

 
Old 04-16-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The 7 states with the most cases all have Democrat Governors and have 75% of all US deaths from the virus. Rural areas account for a bout 2% of US deaths. So threadfail. Anyway, it was China's lies as well as our Fake News media and lying Dimocrats that are killing New York, Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Detroit, Illinois...
 
Old 04-16-2020, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Boston
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The 7 states with the most cases all have Democrat Governors and have 75% of all US deaths from the virus. Rural areas account for a bout 2% of US deaths. So threadfail. Anyway, it was China's lies as well as our Fake News media and lying Dimocrats that are killing New York, Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Detroit, Illinois...
why have these Democrat Governors allowed this to happen?
 
Old 04-16-2020, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Yakima, Wa
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why have these Democrat Governors allowed this to happen?
You know they had nothing to do with it, unless you're really dimwitted.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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You know they had nothing to do with it, unless you're really dimwitted.
yes, it's China's fault. Sadly we have many China apologists here.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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why have these Democrat Governors allowed this to happen?
They really couldn't help it. There were so man millions of people flocking in who wanted to live in a blue state with Trump in office they just got overwhelmed.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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yes, it's China's fault. Sadly we have many China apologists here.
Trump is the biggest China apologist in the country. They grant his daughter trademark protection for her goods, and manufacture everything with the Trump brand on it.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Denver and Boston
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Truthout is a nonprofit news organization dedicated to providing independent reporting and commentary on a diverse range of social justice issues...

Truthout works to spark action by revealing systemic injustice and providing a platform for progressive and transformative ideas, through in-depth investigative reporting and critical analysis. With a powerful, independent voice, we will spur the revolution in consciousness and inspire the direct action that is necessary to save the planet and humanity.
another orangemanbad outrage site.

Translation: We don't have any marketable skills and We can't make any money promoting our radical views on a level playing field, so we hope we can trigger enough Haters to donate money to us.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 05:10 PM
 
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Trump is the biggest China apologist in the country. They grant his daughter trademark protection for her goods, and manufacture everything with the Trump brand on it.
I thought Trump was going to bring the jobs back to the USA ?

Is Trump still making his high priced ties in China ?
 
Old 04-16-2020, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Tall Traveler View Post
The 7 states with the most cases all have Democrat Governors and have 75% of all US deaths from the virus. Rural areas account for a bout 2% of US deaths. So threadfail. Anyway, it was China's lies as well as our Fake News media and lying Dimocrats that are killing New York, Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Detroit, Illinois...
This virus is still taking its course, do you think these lower density states on the tail end have some sort of special immunity. They have outbreaks in South Dakota and Nebraska, they are relatively small at the present time but we have seen this disease explode everywhere. So are these rural healthcare systems ready to handles an outbreak. Trump was asked a direct question regarding the ridiculous protest in Lansing, MI and he just couldn't bring himself to criticize their actions. I don't know why this needs to be a red state/ blue state issue but here we are.


Why is it so difficult for some of these republican governors to follow the advice of their own health experts.
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