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Old 03-07-2019, 10:33 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Originally Posted by Merriman80 View Post
People are leaving the Northeast in droves.

It can't be that nice
Sorry, but so many people are moving into Boston that it's about to explode. There's barely any more room to expand. It's good for the rest of the state that's starting to get some of the overflow.

CT is losing population because for years it was poorly managed, corruption, I think. They have to clean up their act. Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire--their young people have always left for jobs but now people are looking to retire there. They are wonderful states.

New Jersey, I don't know much about but it's crowded so people are probably leaving to get some peace and quiet and room. New York state is cold and mostly rural and I don't know if people are leaving but they always have, looking for better jobs. People have always left rural areas.

Vermont and New Hampshire are so beautiful and have such good quality of life that I wish people would stop moving there. Massachusetts people are taking over New Hampshire and NYC people are invading Vermont.

It's pretty nice here!

 
Old 03-07-2019, 10:45 PM
 
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All these people are moving to the southeast, especially North Carolina.

It's not that nice.
 
Old 03-07-2019, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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that plan reads like one Putin might have come up with... No wonder Putin funds the Republicans he sees them as a great way to destroy the US... But really there is no need, Trump is doing it all on his own by starting a losing conflict with China, a conflict he is losing and losing fast...
This is how I envision Americans. In matter of fact. I hope America splits on the lines I have mentioned.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 12:23 AM
 
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The idea that the blue states couldn't get by without food from the red states is just ridiculous.

Canada would love to provide the blue states with food, as would Mexico, etc.

Without farm subsidies from the blue states, the red states might find it difficult to be competitive.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 12:28 AM
 
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Yes. Allow the country to regionalize by allowing states to group together based on political and economic agreement. Limit federal control to national defense. Allow regions form global agreements and to establish laws that prevent refugees from different regions to "benefit shop" by establishing five or ten year qualification periods.

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The idea that the blue states couldn't get by without food from the red states is just ridiculous.

Canada would love to provide the blue states with food, as would Mexico, etc.

Without farm subsidies from the blue states, the red states might find it difficult to be competitive.
Agriculture is huge in blue states such as California, Washington, Oregon and Hawaii. In addition, states could regionalize with blue states supplementing their own agriculture through trade agreements with places like Central America, the same way we see Costco produce in winter.

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This shows that the issue is more complex than you initially stated.
Indeed. For example the second largest contributor to the growth in Washington state is Texas, which makes no sense.

Last edited by Seacove; 03-08-2019 at 12:47 AM..
 
Old 03-08-2019, 12:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by in_newengland View Post
Vermont and New Hampshire are so beautiful and have such good quality of life that I wish people would stop moving there.
i miss nh terribly.

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Massachusetts people are taking over New Hampshire
or perhaps i got out just in time.

but it was truly lovely.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 05:12 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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of course it is not going to happen. this is just Republicans feeding their egos, pretending to themselves that somehow they could rid themselves of those pesky liberals..


Which is why i never stop reminding Republicans that "republican America" is welfare America.


let me repeat that.

Republican america is welfare america.
Since Democrats live in red states, and vice versa, your ridiculous assertion has been completely debunked.

Here's the truth...

Percent of Public Assistance Program Recipients Who Identify as:

Democrat:

Public Housing: 81%
Medicaid: 74%
Food Stamps: 67%
Welfare or public assistance: 63%


Republican:

Public Housing: 12%
Medicaid: 16%
Food Stamps: 20%
Welfare or public assistance: 22%


Are Welfare Recipients Mostly Republican? Or Democrat?

Cites both the Maxwell School of of Citizenship and Public Affairs (syracuse.edu) and NPR as data sources.

And here's Pew Research, confirming the Maxwell School's Food Stamps data:

Who has Received Food Stamps, As a Percentage of Their Respective Populations - Pew Research
 
Old 03-08-2019, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Can’t we just split the country into blue states and red states? Trump has proven beyond a doubt that the red states and blue states can't work together, so why don't we stop pretending we can and just split the country?
Sure, just tell all Republicans to move to a red State, and Democrats move to a blue State. In case of my home State (Florida), we'd have to replace about 50% of the population.

Where do the independents go? Do we need a third country for us? I'd hate to move to a red State like Alabama or Mississippi.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 05:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Again... Since there is a certain subsection of the population who wishes the Fed Gov to provide more socialist program benefits, let those who wish to do so buy into any such Fed Gov programs by sharing the corresponding cost of such programs. Those who opt out of such programs don't have to pay. That way, everyone gets what they want. One nation. Indivisible. Individual liberty. Free to be; you and me.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 05:23 AM
 
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Again... Since there is a certain subsection of the population who wishes the Fed Gov to provide more socialist program benefits, let those who wish to do so buy into any such Fed Gov programs by sharing the corresponding cost of such programs. Those who opt out of such programs don't have to pay. That way, everyone gets what they want. One nation. Indivisible. Individual liberty. Free to be; you and me.
im totally in favour of this. ultimately though, it means that everybody gets a form where they check off each thing they want to be taxed for-- instead of letting congress decide.

im totally in favour of that, too. dont want to fund the military? up to you, citizens. if china invades, maybe you should have funded the military sufficiently. i think we probably overspend-- im technically against that. i do not think underfunding is a worthwhile solution, but we are speaking awfully hypothetically.
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