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Old 03-09-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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He didn’t support BLM? Why did he invite them to the White House?



https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/85952771-157.html
For the same reason he pretended to support a lot of things he didn't actually support. His actions rarely supported his words.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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Why should we? The left is not a monolithic we all have different opinions.
Well, AOC is making a "list" and she'll be adding you and others like you to it if you don't get on her new progressive train
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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She insulted their greatest President since LBJ, and even though she is of their favorite Religian she will lose her favored status position by Insulting their greatest Hero.
She's female, POC and Islamic. A trifecta.

Never gonna happen as she's untouchable and she knows it.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Mainly people of her Religion, and probably of her home country first. Muslims generally put their Religion first unless attacked by another Muslim country.

Some people will put their Race first, some ethnic group, some country, some political party, some Religion. In her case its Religion.
Islam doesn't relate to separation of Church and State. Look at the Islamic countries, they are one and the same.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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For the same reason he pretended to support a lot of things he didn't actually support. His actions rarely supported his words.
Why didn’t he ever condemn BLM for organizing protests where they chanted “Pigs in a blanket , fry them up like bacon”?

How about when they told “white people and white media “ to get to the back of the crowd ?

How about hosting “blacks only “ meetings in public spaces like public libraries ?

The list goes on , but Black Lives Matter was never condemned by the left and instead they embraced it .
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Why should we? The left is not a monolithic we all have different opinions.
Perhaps the constituents have differing opinions, however the Democrats in Congress actively push against any descent from the party lines. So yeah, sorry, but the left in government is absolutely monolithic. Republicans are always more likely to cross party lines.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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She's female, POC and Islamic. A trifecta.

Never gonna happen as she's untouchable and she knows it.
Yup in the twisted hierarchy of the left’s identity politics she ranks above Obama .
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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Firstly, Obama isn't black. To call him such ignores that he is half white (fully biracial) and is a slap in the face to his white mother.

Secondly, Ilhan didn't single out Obama, but called out other white presidents for the same thing. That is not what we largely see with the criticism of Israel, though, where criticism of the left for supposed "dual loyalty" and "human rights violations" are never meted out in the same way for Israel's Islamic neighbors, whose records (and support in Congress . . . think support for Saudi Arabia) never seems to be an issue. That's what the problem is.

If people who find it within themselves to criticize Israel for alleged wrongs balanced out their criticism with actual cases of human rights violations (women, gays, and others are treated horrendously throughout much of the Islamic world), international aid (Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, and other Islamic nations are given billions of dollars a year by the U.S.), "dual loyalty" (Saudi Arabia receives tremendous support in the US Congress and has a successful lobbying office), and other issues, there wouldn't be as much to criticize. But the lack of balance in these matters--with criticism overwhelmingly seeming to focus on the Jewish nation among the left--is why myself and others question the motivations of people like Ilhan; well, that and the stereotypical language used by the far left on this issue when discussing Israel and support for the country.
On the bold - Obama calls hiimself black....

So what you feel about his background is irrelevant to me. I myself am 25% European and even about 2% S. Asian, - but I am still black. Doesn't slap any of my ancestors to state as such.

ON teh rest of your post - she did the same thing in her comments about Obama as she did about the state of Israel.

Too many of you equate "Israel" the country with "Jews." Being anti-semetic is not the same thing as criticizing or not agreeing with the actions and activities of a foreign nation.

You may be all up in Israel's behind and lovey dover toward them but not everyone is and I'd include people from various political backgrounds could and do criticize the nation of Israel. Doing so is not anti-semetic.

Her "Benjamins" comment was specifically about PACs that give money to US candidates during election campaigns and it was not about Jews. So there was no stereotype involved.

Just like to me - her saying that Obama was a murderer and black men often being stereotyped as murderers (including half black men who "look" black like Obama lol) is not stereotyping all black men.

You need to quit being so sensitive and getting triggered by people's comments.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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You condemned Obama (rightfully so) for killing tens of thousands in our wars of choice. You defend Trump for doing the same. I have all kinds of respect for the lady here in question for her principles. You not so much.

If something is wrong, it is wrong, period. You have no standing to even be commenting here.

What wars of choice did Trump start? He's trying to take down the atrocious and unnecessary wars stared by Bush & Obama.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Perhaps the constituents have differing opinions, however the Democrats in Congress actively push against any descent from the party lines. So yeah, sorry, but the left in government is absolutely monolithic. Republicans are always more likely to cross party lines.
On this - Dems IMO fight more often on political POVs than conservatives and Republicans do.

Both major party have their super hard right/left leaning persons, their moderates and others who are more centric.

I do think that today Republicans are more likely to cross party lines, but that is because the Republican party has gone way far right. Republicans in the past were not so hard core right leaning in the likes of Ted Cruz and other darlings of the Tea Party era. When they rose in ranks, the GOP moderates either started retiring/leaving politics or they started voting with Democrats.

In the past Democrats did the same thing when their party was too left leaning.
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