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Originally Posted by Mistype
Do you have any studies that bare this theory out, I would like to see them.
There's an educational poster that hangs in a prison education wing that I visit. It's in the classroom where they teach life skills outside of prison. The purpose of the poster is to note how very many women are in prison due to the lifestyle/behaviors of the men they choose, goes on with some stats, and makes the point that you need to choose your guy wisely next time if you don't want to return to prison.
"Couldn't Keep It To Ourselves" by Wally Lamb also broached this thought. He taught creative writing in a woman's prison, and had some notes in his foreward of the book about how pretty much 100% of the women in the prison were sexual abuse survivors, and how very many were there because they were with the wrong guy. They would not have been engaged in the situations had it not been for this boyfriend.
As opposed to the men's prison, where they are there because of their own behaviors.
There's an educational poster that hangs in a prison education wing that I visit. It's in the classroom where they teach life skills outside of prison. The purpose of the poster is to note how very many women are in prison due to the lifestyle/behaviors of the men they choose, goes on with some stats, and makes the point that you need to choose your guy wisely next time if you don't want to return to prison.
"Couldn't Keep It To Ourselves" by Wally Lamb also broached this thought. He taught creative writing in a woman's prison, and had some notes in his foreward of the book about how pretty much 100% of the women in the prison were sexual abuse survivors, and how very many were there because they were with the wrong guy. They would not have been engaged in the situations had it not been for this boyfriend.
As opposed to the men's prison, where they are there because of their own behaviors.
One of the studies I posted looked at sex offenses, which looked at invidual men and women cases. Even if a women gets caught up with a wrong man, if she assaults or hurts somebody she should be held responsible for her actions whether or not they were influenced by her bf or husband. Just like young gang members are sentenced for their actions despite getting caught up in the wrong crowd or people. A crime is a crime.
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Originally Posted by Mistype
One of the studies I posted looked at sex offenses, which looked at invidual men and women cases. Even if a women gets caught up with a wrong man, if she assaults or hurts somebody she should be held responsible for her actions whether or not they were influenced by her bf or husband. Just like young gang members are sentenced for their actions despite getting caught up in the wrong crowd or people. A crime is a crime.
A typical scenario I'm referring to, is a woman falls in love with a drug dealer, and has his baby. She knows he's a drug dealer although she is not, and she also doesn't do drugs. Ever. They go to Walmart to buy diapers and groceries, and she packs the baby in the car, and while they're at Walmart he gets a text about a drug deal and so he drives the car there on the way home and the deal goes badly and someone gets shot and dies during that exchange.
She goes to prison for being an accessory, and also for endangering a child (who is also the drug dealer's child) because the baby is in the car.
And in prison, she'll cry about what she's done, how her baby is now in foster care, she's so so sad about making bad decisions, it was her choice to have a drug dealer boyfriend.
So, in the USA, this means that with regards to the justice-system, there are all sorts of special
carve-outs for certain groups of people to have preferential treatment.
A typical scenario I'm referring to, is a woman falls in love with a drug dealer, and has his baby. She knows he's a drug dealer although she is not, and she also doesn't do drugs. Ever. They go to Walmart to buy diapers and groceries, and she packs the baby in the car, and while they're at Walmart he gets a text about a drug deal and so he drives the car there on the way home and the deal goes badly and someone gets shot and dies during that exchange.
She goes to prison for being an accessory, and also for endangering a child (who is also the drug dealer's child) because the baby is in the car.
And in prison, she'll cry about what she's done, how her baby is now in foster care, she's so so sad about making bad decisions, it was her choice to have a drug dealer boyfriend.
That's what I'm talking about.
I understand what you are getting at, but studies I linked looked at men and women charged for the same crime.
There are loads of talks and discussion about the sentencing disparity between white and blacks, however a far larger sentencing disparity exist between men and women. This doesn’t seem to get the same amount of coverage but it’s an issue we should all address.
What do we do to solve this? Do you think this is because women are seen as weaker thus less capable then men? Just like how society views black men as more inherently violent this shows them less mercy when it comes to sentencing.
When it comes to sexual offenses - deep differences of why the crime was committed. But they should all serve the same time . Biggest disparity is wealthy vs the rest of humanity
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