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Old 03-10-2019, 05:39 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Conservatives seem to be much better at managing high speed rail projects.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger...-vs-homegrown/
Apparently not. The project has been delayed so long neither Houston nor Dallas have any high speed rail at all. Talking about how financially smart one's approach is, rather than actually building the high speed rail, is a great way to save money. But it doesn't transport people anywhere.
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Do you realize how many mountain ranges there are between Transbay Transit Center and Union Station? And if you take the less mountainous route through the Central Valley, you still have the Santa Cruz Mountains, the Diablo Mountains, the Tehachapi Mtns/San Emigdio Mtns, the Santa Susanna Mtns and the Santa Monica Mtns. And the San Emigdio and Santa Susanna Mtns peak pretty damn high (over 7,000 ft with about 6,000 ft of prominence)
The rail right of way exists.

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Old 03-10-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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Good thing it sunk..........the year-over-year operating-losses would have been an
insane pill to swallow, even for California.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The difference is not political leanings but the general mindset of trying to serve as many rather than a select market, in either case the projects are not moving forward and neither one is online.
Plus Texas isn't really conservative. Limiting spending is the litmus test and that hasn't happened in ages. The third highest debt of all the states is proof that big government is alive and well in Texas
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Do you realize how many mountain ranges there are between Transbay Transit Center and Union Station? And if you take the less mountainous route through the Central Valley, you still have the Santa Cruz Mountains, the Diablo Mountains, the Tehachapi Mtns/San Emigdio Mtns, the Santa Susanna Mtns and the Santa Monica Mtns. And the San Emigdio and Santa Susanna Mtns peak pretty damn high (over 7,000 ft with about 6,000 ft of prominence)
Oat Mountain is the highest peak in the Santa Susana mountain range at 3,748 feet.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:01 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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When you consider that people who dont use them are forced to pay for them, yes they are.
What would you say about the success of a company or business that forced everyone to pay for its products regardless if they used them or not?
Im 100% sure you use the interstate system.

Whether it is to get your food delivered to your local grocer, Or Power restored after a major storm, building supplies for your home, or so on and so forth. You use it.
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Old 03-11-2019, 04:21 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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When you consider that people who dont use them are forced to pay for them, yes they are.
What would you say about the success of a company or business that forced everyone to pay for its products regardless if they used them or not?
Sort of like the ACA ?
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:08 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I always found it funny that red texas got the trains done while CA foundered badly.

I view hubbing lines of these high speed trains out of major job centers as a win for smaller distant cities and the lower tier workers who can live in the more affordable distant cities.

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Old 03-11-2019, 06:21 AM
 
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You forget to mention that Texas has more forgiving geography i.e. no steep rugged mountains to be traversed
I see no steep rugged mountains to be traversed in CA either. The reality is that it's the unreasonable environmental testing costs that add to the skyrocketing costs.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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Do you realize how many mountain ranges there are between Transbay Transit Center and Union Station? And if you take the less mountainous route through the Central Valley, you still have the Santa Cruz Mountains, the Diablo Mountains, the Tehachapi Mtns/San Emigdio Mtns, the Santa Susanna Mtns and the Santa Monica Mtns. And the San Emigdio and Santa Susanna Mtns peak pretty damn high (over 7,000 ft with about 6,000 ft of prominence)
If you look a the map of the route, there isn't one "mountain range" on that path.
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