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View Poll Results: Do you support Trump’s Medicare cuts
Yes 16 16.67%
No 75 78.13%
Don’t know 5 5.21%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Okay, now this is hilarious. Please, katie45, come back and tell us what the difference is between reducing funds and cutting funds.
The Liberal mind-set is such that spending less equals budget cuts, in spite of the fact that no budget cuts were actually made.

Witness the recent Social Security debacle.

The Republican-controlled Congress passed a Bill barring Social Security Disability recipients from also applying for and receiving State and federal unemployment benefits, which Liberals claimed was a "cut" to Social Security.

Social Security's budget was neither cut nor reduced, but it did spend less.

People on Disability should never have been allowed to collect unemployment benefits on top of disability payments, since the three-prong test to determine if someone is unemployed is that they are available to work, and desire to work, and are actively seeking work, having sought employment within the last 30 days prior to the date the Current Population Survey is conducted.

Reducing payments to hospitals and other healthcare providers results in Medicare spending less, but is not a budget cut.

Medicare is not part of the federal budget, just as Social Security is not part of the federal budget.

Both OASI/OADI and HI are self-contained programs and paid from FICA and HI payroll tax revenues and their respective Trust Funds.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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This country has a problem with a bunch of people who eat fatty and otherwise unhealthy foods, then sit on their fat a**es all day and night. Not near as much 'health care' would be required if the root causes of the chronics were addressed by each and every individual. Thus is would not be a problem.

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When people, who run the country are in good health, as in Trump, it's hard for them to recognize this country has a problem with health care.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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This country has a problem with a bunch of people who eat fatty and otherwise unhealthy foods, then sit on their fat a**es all day and night. Not near as much 'health care' would be required if the root causes of the chronics were addressed by each and every individual. Thus is would not be a problem.
Wow, I bet you were a big supporter of Michelle Obama's "Let's Move!" and healthy school lunch programs, huh?
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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The Dem talking points playbook is so tattered after decades of dragging out the same old lines "Social Security will be cut! Medicare will be cut! People will die!" My elderly relatives told me about this tactic years ago when I asked them if they were worried.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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The Dem talking points playbook is so tattered after decades of dragging out the same old lines "Social Security will be cut! Medicare will be cut! People will die!" My elderly relatives told me about this tactic years ago when I asked them if they were worried.
Same old lines? Trump’s budget IS proposing to cut Medicare. That’s a fact.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Hospitals are and will have a hard time remaining solvent.
Then they can do like Europe and transform the system from the costly, inefficient, ineffective Hospital Model to the cheaper, highly efficient, more effective Clinic and Policlinic Models like Europe.

You worship Euro-State single-payer systems without grasping the reality that the Euro-States you love abandoned the costly inefficient Hospital Model decades ago in favor of the cheaper more efficient Clinic and PoliClinic Models.

In order for you to get the same cost-savings your beloved Euro-States get, you must also move from the Hospital Model to the Clinic and Policlinic Models, or you'll never see the cost-savings.

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"Enrollee" is the qualifier in your sentence. However, when cuts are made, services to "enrollees" are also cut.
No cuts are being made, rather the goal is pay less to hospitals and healthcare providers.

Where I live, the Free Market cost of open-heart surgery is $13,000 but the hospital monopolies charge $26,000 to $42,000.

That's because they're monopolies.

Now, because of differences in Cost-of-Living, the Free Market cost to you might actually be $9,000 or it might be $17,000, but the point is everyone pays far too much, because hospitals are monopolies.

You can reduce payments to the hospital monopolies.

That is not a budget cut, that's simply spending less.

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That's seriously where you're going with this?
If you can't tell the difference between spending less and cutting the budget, you probably shouldn't be voting.

Do you even understand that Medicare and Social Security aren't even part of the federal budget?

'Cause if you don't, that's another reason why you shouldn't be voting.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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Another Trump promise shattered and his supporters here are unconcerned as Trump lies now exceed 8,000. These supporters who are opposed to Social Security and Medicare would be the first ones in line to collect. Many Trump supporters claim to be christian conservatives, but what kind of a christian would deny the elderly a minimal way of life? This group of people applaud Trump's business intellect while our country sinks another $8 trillion in debt, farmers file bankruptcy, and a variety of businesses shutting down across the country.
Perhaps it is shared dementia and those that follow Trump are simply believing his lies.

The time is overdo to put Demented Don where he belongs. A nursing home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.d2b3881856b1
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The entire Fed Gov should be cut by at least 10%, which includes all entitlements.
Why don't we cut the biggest entitlement of them all, tax cuts to the top 1%.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:15 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Same old lines? Trump’s budget IS proposing to cut Medicare. That’s a fact.
That's only for minorities. Medicare for white ppl will be safe.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:40 PM
 
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Default Do you support Trump’s Medicare cuts

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