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View Poll Results: Which of the past 8 Presidential elections would you reverse the result of?
1988 3 1.88%
1992 10 6.25%
1996 1 0.63%
2000 31 19.38%
2004 4 2.50%
2008 57 35.63%
2012 10 6.25%
2016 44 27.50%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-13-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I am going to go with 2000. I have no doubt 9/11 would have happened no matter who was President but we can be sure that Iraq would not. And depending on how Gore handled 9/11, he would have been re-elected in 2004 which would have meant that Obama would not have been elected in 2008. Which also means Trump would not be President right now.
Who said the following:

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"We know that he stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
AL Gore 2002

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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD and missiles to deliver them. that is our bottom line."

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"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's WMD program."
Both by Bill Clinton in 1998.

So with those two statements by Clinton in 1998, that is where George Tenet, Clinton appointed director of the CIA and later held the same position in the Bush administration, who give that false information to Bush.

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I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if Necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that deadly arsenal WMD in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security"
John Kerry 2002.

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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show the Saddam Hussein has ork3ed to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members...It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Hillary Clinton 2002.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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You know who agrees that 2000 was the biggest mistake? Donald J. Trump. Let the Bush-haters chew on that one for a bit.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:48 AM
 
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I'm surprised that 2008 got so many more votes than 1992 did. I thought Clinton was at least as divisive as Obama.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:33 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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For me, it is a toss-up between 2000 and 2016.

If GWB had not been elected, I truly don't think so many American lives would have been lost; but Trump has been the most divisive POTUS and the least presidential in my memory -- and I'm 65.

I agree,except I'm 67.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I selected 2000. I actually voted for Bush in that election because I wanted something different and he was much more likable than Gore. In hindsight, however, I think Gore was the much better choice. He gets alot of crap from conservatives for his climate work, but if you can look beyond that you’ll find that the guy is really damn smart. In fact I think it was his nerdiness that bored people and ultimately caused him to lose the election. Sometimes I go back to the 2000 presidential debates,where I feel his brilliance shows, and wonder what if? It’s possible he could have been a great president...but we’ll never know.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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1980, without a doubt.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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I agree,except I'm 67.
I agree and I am almost 65.

I can remember a lot, and this administration is the worst by far, and we have seen some really bad presidents. In fact, it is still hard to believe anyone can look at Trump and not realize he is unfit, divisive and even dangerous to our republic.

Most of the youth of this country have been raised by us with a moral code that involves fairness, honesty and common courtesy. The youth of America are by and large shocked and offended by the man, and long after Trump and I are long gone these people will be talking about Trump the way we speak of Nixon ... mostly with disdain.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The end of the world
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Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy,Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy,Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy.

That is the reality. If he was not shot we would all be super-rich right now. Same with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. with a possibility of him being President.

We all know that Sanders had ran against Trump. Sanders would have one point-blank. Hillary was elected based on what she does not have between her legs. She promised nothing and if she did have any agenda of restoring the world to the point of 1995 of privacy is concerned, or even peaceful resolution to 2001 conflict it is lost.

Those are the two domination conflicts.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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I'd reverse 1992, Bush1 likely would have acted on Al Qaeda and no 9/11. Could of, should of, would of....



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2000.

No bank bailouts.

One can only speculate what would of occurred had their been different administrations leading up to it but the bailout of the banking industry is a given under any administration unless there was considerable hardcore conservative majorities in Congress.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Easy -2008. Worst prez in my life time (and since it seems to matter to some of you, I'm 72) because he hates the US and did his best to change it for the worse. And as usual, any criticism of him on here automatically gets you labeled as "raaaacist" because what he did as prez is otherwise indefensible.

Had 9/11 occurred on his watch, he would have apologized for putting those big buildings in the path of the planes....
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