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""costs and benefits are evenly distributed amongst those that create them""
evenly distributed (costs and bennies) is NOT pay for performance
We weren't talking about pay for performance
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Originally Posted by mikeyyc
No. But that is as much as they can hear.
We're talking about making sure that costs and benefits are evenly distributed
For example, if you're a good or bad mechanic, doesn't matter, and you pour used motor oil into the river that the people downstream use for drinking water, you have to pay the damages, to clean it up, etc...don't leave it for them.
If you're a mechanic, good or bad, doesn't matter, who has a shop in the upscale part of town where all the rich people with the fancy cars live, you can pay more in taxes, since you're benefiting from the increased services that keep the rich people in that part of town.
The second friend, who wanted to return the money to the owner, I would not consider to have acted selfishly.
There are two main drivers of a person's seemingly altruistic behavior.
A) They expect to get some future benefit.
B) It makes them feel good(or prevents them from feeling guilty).
For isolated incidents, like giving a kid a piece of candy, sharing your candybar, or returning someone's wallet, you generally don't expect a future benefit. But rather, it gives you a "nice feeling", or you would feel guilty if you didn't.
I agree that doing nice things because it feels good, or because you don't want to feel bad, shouldn't be classed as "selfishness". But small acts of kindness aren't the same as political philosophies.
Politics is about power. Politics is about forcing others to do what you want them to do. The very nature of politics is selfish. It is about using government force to create the world you want to live in. A world based on your own "values", which you believe to be superior to all others, and which you are perfectly willing to shove down the throats of anyone who disagrees.
Politics is "other-focused". Returning someone's wallet is personal. There is no comparing the two.
Too bad they listened and believed as they recited the Pledge of Allegiance in school. When they learned it was a lie, they started looking around at the other lies.
Expecting a business owner to be a benevolent monarch is unrealistic. These kids get to live with the poisoned air and water provided by excess consumerism and that big daddy benevolent monarch.
They were told by society that to live long and prosper they needed a college degree. Many got one, but still no job. Some acquired a lot of debt, too. IMO, any parent who let their kids borrow more than they could ever pay back needs to be castrated. The parents who permitted it are the idiots.
The kids I know are doing great. They know how to work, got scholarship for college and advanced degrees and are working part time until finished with school.
If there is a problem, it is that parents who gave the kids unrealistic expectations. And many expected public education to teach everything that parents should teach.
Thank you TL, I believe that this is the main reason this generation is leaning toward more socialism. Bernie promised them free college in a nation where every year American universities are making it more and more impossible for the average American to afford higher ed.
It's not about fairness and compassion with these kids, it's about tuition.
And why not?
A lot of them know that previous generations had this and other similar advantages:
“In fall 1957, for example, nearly 36,000 attended Hunter, Brooklyn, Queens and City Colleges for free, but another 24,000 paid tuition of up to $300 a year — the equivalent of $2,411.98 today, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ online inflation calculator.
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Merit-based free tuition survived through much of the last century until 1970, when the University dropped all tuition charges and accepted any student with a high school diploma.”
Originally Posted by dynamicjson most of the people who want access to global warming have got it already, the health care debate has gone on at least since nixon created hmos in 1973, and i dont think anybody really wants access to mass shootings.
its the racial equality part that has me worried. so theyre going to take everybody, and divvy them up so that the country is equal parts white, equal parts asian, equal parts black, and equal parts hispanic? its whites and hispanics that are going to suffer the most under that regime, and while asians will flourish, blacks are right behind hispanics in terms of population. id ask where we are supposed to get enough asians to balance out the rest, but we can probably import them. all in all its a silly idea, very impractical and i shudder to think what we are supposed to do with all the extra white people. better get to canada, while you still can. when are we going to make mexico equal too?
Is there a point or message to your post? What in the hell are you trying to say?
Yeah, but the whole world isn't Mississippi, or even Alabama, or even Louisiana!
My point was that either he hasn't traveled much or lived in other places, or he has...but he hasn't allowed his mind to open up beyond the stereotype of where he lives. I live in the Houston metro now, but I'm the 4th of 6 generations on one side of my family to be born in a hospital...or way, way back at home...in Oakland (where that poster lives), stretching from this decade to over 150 years ago.
These kids get to live with the poisoned air and water provided by excess consumerism and that big daddy benevolent monarch.
The kids I know are doing great. They know how to work, got scholarship for college and advanced degrees and are working part time until finished with school.
And they are, or will be, perpetuating the same consumerist culture just as the generations before them.
Old men watching in befuddlement as it turns out their tribal customs aren't laws of nature always make for good entertainment.
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