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I can't help but feel sorry for the children of these wealthy, status-seeking parents. Discovering that your parents chose to bribe officials in order to get you into a school that might end up being a terrible environment for you. Finding out your parents are so insecure with their own image/status and do not trust you to achieve something with your own efforts, so they cheat for you to get into Brown, Yale, etc. Now everyone will think that you'll never get anywhere without mom or dad making sure it will happen for you.
Desperate Housewives, indeed. It's "shameless."
Why do you feel that liberals would want to ignore this issue? Complaining about how the system is rigged to give advantages to the wealthy and connected is pretty much right in their wheelhouse.
The Elite - those who lecture "morality" to all the little people. They are so "special"!!
The Fraud is very wide -- expect more arrests. Their Millennial sweethearts will get to stay in school and nobody will ever remember they got into those "elite" Universities by cheating and lies.
As usual ...... odds of Jail time are slim and none. It's become a badge of honor in the USA to break the Laws and get away with it.
Yes, this was a waste of time and resources by the FBI, even they should know better...but I have a feeling the FBI is about to get a rude wake up call from reality.
No, this is not at all the same thing. What you brought to the university was your athleticism and your willingness to be used as a piece of meat. In exchange for that you got a scholarship. And anyone who has ever heard a good majority of college football players speak, know they didn't get in based on grades or test scores.
We're talking about kids who:
1) didn't take their own tests
2) never played sports but had fake bio's and photo's created with high school coaches writing letters for them
Not the same, Daryl.
I see your point.
It's possible that their experience at an SEC football program lead them to see much of the same cheating there that went on in the points you are referencing.
Having people take tests for you and fake classes etc. are not abnormal in bigtime college sports after all.
Funny part is that this little ring the FBI cracked is small potatoes compared to what goes on in just one of the power conferences let along across all of college football.
This is about internal under the sheets bribery aside from the normal admissions process.
In fact, many of these actions were done to FOOL the normal admissions process.
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Now, setting that aside, in the course of a normal admissions process it's entirely legal to let in people for various reasons like donations, legacy, powerful family.
For example, many Public Universities make their budget work by letting in foreign and neighboring state students and charging them more but having lower admission standards. Many freely admit this and cite how it has several benefits but the main one is keeping costs down for the in-state kids.
We're not talking about a few students here and there but THOUSANDS of students at a big state university paying more and getting in with lesser academic scores.
Heck, as others have noted SPORTS is the poster child for lax academic admission standards and a full scholarship on top.
In both cases the University is benefitting financially by having *generally* lower caliber students whom result in $$$ for the university either through sports success, higher tuition or direct donation.
The end result to all that is that the higher scoring students that get financial aid etc. are able to attend because the school is making their money elsewhere.
So, the irony is that the athletes, rich kids etc. are getting a break but at the same time that additional money is helping poorer, better performing kids afford to attend.
It's not helping the poorer kids. The poorer kids are getting in with loans anyway. Almost anyone can get a loan. Artificially creating supply by giving everyone and their dog loans is what's driving up the price. Just another government created bubble.
It's not helping the poorer kids. The poorer kids are getting in with loans anyway. Almost anyone can get a loan. Artificially creating supply by giving everyone and their dog loans is what's driving up the price. Just another government created bubble.
Even if they have loans, they still have to score high enough on entrance exams to get in, and poorer kids are not getting into schools like Yale and Harvard with loans.
That seems to be the root of all this, the kids are not smart enough to do this themselves, its not really about money problems.
Another leftist condoned mess! These people are not always wrong in their societal schemes, they are running a College admission scam for their big donors!
I can't help but feel sorry for the children of these wealthy, status-seeking parents. Discovering that your parents chose to bribe officials in order to get you into a school that might end up being a terrible environment for you. Finding out your parents are so insecure with their own image/status and do not trust you to achieve something with your own efforts, so they cheat for you to get into Brown, Yale, etc. Now everyone will think that you'll never get anywhere without mom or dad making sure it will happen for you.
Desperate Housewives, indeed. It's "shameless."
How about a Reality Check here - what kid gets a Golf, Swimming or Tennis scholarship when they KNOW they are not Golf, Swimming or Tennis champions? What kid doesn't take a SAT test and yet gets good results from the test they never took ... and doesn't figure out something is wrong here?
Those "wealthy, status-seeking parents" raised their kids to be just like them.
The Millennials of today ..... the same idiots that want to live in Socialism.
You can't make this stuff up - even Hollywood couldn't make this stuff up.
I don't feel a bit sorry for any of them. Each one of those kids could have said NO.
Did you read any articles on this? It's a whole network of paid off coaches, staged photos of kids playing sports they never played, photoshopped pictures, and SAT/ACT proctors helping the student answer the questions during private testing.
Maybe not to you, but to most of us, that's a big deal.
it's the fraud of creating these identities - athletes - and more importantly, the fraud of claiming the payments as tax-deductible.
Even if they have loans, they still have to score high enough on entrance exams to get in, and poorer kids are not getting into schools like Yale and Harvard with loans.
That seems to be the root of all this, the kids are not smart enough to do this themselves, its not really about money problems.
Poorer kids attending Harvard and Yale get full ride scholarships as of about 5 years or so ago.
Family making under 65k a year and it's free including room and board.
Long story as to why they did this but it boils down to a way to subvert the ivy league charter banning athletic scholarships.
They also admitted to FURTHER lowering admission standards for athletes in key sports like mens basketball.
So rich folks use their money to help their children. bfd. Lots of folks do this - SAT coaches, etc - just at a lower cost
Right. not any worse than someone that..... lets say...…….pays someone to fire you from your job so they can have it......
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