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You should love UBI, it envisions a complete corporate society like you 'moderate' center-right folks love.
Nope it deincentivizes production, and it would probably cripple the economy over an extended period of time.
Think about it, if we implement UBI (forget the argument of hyperinflation, or just where the money would come from--that's another ball of wax)...why would anyone want to even work? Why wouldn't people just simply collect that check AND/or work part time and supplement the lost of work hours with a $1000 monthly check? A large percentage of the hourly wage workforce would simply work 2-3 days a week and have 4 day weekends for the rest of their lives and even more people would just quit work altogether and be happy with the minimum 1k with free healthcare, and free SNAP.
Dems welcoming this just reinforces the stereotype that all they want is welfare handouts. IMO, this is their "BIG SCORE" creme de la crem of ideas.
The growth model is breaking down in many industries - but we pretend that it is still going. It is corrupting many of us and many of our institutions.
Nope it deincentivizes production, and it would probably cripple the economy over an extended period of time.
Think about it, if we implement UBI (forget the argument of hyperinflation, or just where the money would come from--that's another ball of wax)...why would anyone want to even work? Why wouldn't people just simply collect that check AND/or work part time and supplement the lost of work hours with a $1000 monthly check? A large percentage of the hourly wage workforce would simply work 2-3 days a week and have 4 day weekends for the rest of their lives and even more people would just quit work altogether and be happy with the minimum 1k with free healthcare, and free SNAP.
Dems welcoming this just reinforces the stereotype that all they want is welfare handouts. IMO, this is their "BIG SCORE" creme de la crem of ideas.
People will still have to work some.
Say it was a negative tax rate like Milton Friedman proposed. Now instead robots would do all the labor, and we will consume whatever corporations give us.
It will make us a society of lemurs with no purpose except being zombie like slaves. That is the society corporations envision.
Standard of living will go up, but who cares if life is meaningless.
Americans are convinced they are consumers, not workers. And policy must benefit the American Consumer, not worker.
And that only helps corporate power and wealth.
I don't think people identify as consumers per se. I think most are just weak willed and are swayed by advertisements and pressure to maintain an image. It's incredible how high salaries are in this country by global standards, and still a ridiculous number of people could not survive a $500 emergency without the help of Visa and MasterCard.
Some of you may have heard of the meme friendly candidate who is running on a platform for UBI, Andrew Yang.
The truth is this man is awful, he wants a public income off of corporate wealth/tech wealth to make consumers even more zombie like slaves to consumerism.
That means everyone supports a robotized workforce where tech companies make everything, and get an income from the government so they can sit around and spend money to keep these companies afloat.
Don't become slaves to corporate wealth, fight Yang.
I don't think we have to worry about Andrew Yang becoming the first ever Asian-American POTUS, but everything you're claiming about Yang has been said about every other candidate gunning for the Democratic Party nomination. Truth be told, every mainstream candidate and most outside candidates are sell-outs to corporate greed.
There is a rather funny Yang Gang joke going around. Essentially, there are a lot of fake supporters for the guy. I think it started on 4Chan, which pretty much guarantees that it's all about screwing with people.
Americans are convinced they are consumers, not workers. And policy must benefit the American Consumer, not worker.
And that only helps corporate power and wealth.
I think it's less something abstract like that and more simple innumeracy. If you only listen to and think about the qualitative arguments UBI makes a lot of sense. It only breaks down when you sit down with a pencil and paper and work through the amount you would have to raise taxes and/or cut other programs to fund one large enough to live on. I could easily see a smart person in the American cultural and political center hearing about it, never checking the numbers, and becoming a proponent.
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
I don't think we have to worry about Andrew Yang becoming the first ever Asian-American POTUS, but everything you're claiming about Yang has been said about every other candidate gunning for the Democratic Party nomination. Truth be told, every mainstream candidate and most outside candidates are sell-outs to corporate greed.
There is a rather funny Yang Gang joke going around. Essentially, there are a lot of fake supporters for the guy. I think it started on 4Chan, which pretty much guarantees that it's all about screwing with people.
This played a role in Trump gathering momentum in the Republican primaries. Kind of hard to completely dismiss it after that. Cesspool of the internet and all but also a pretty fiercely Darwinian place for developing messaging that grabs peoples' attention.
Every candidate in every party is a threat to the country because the government they seek to control is itself the number 1 threat to the country.
i dont think youre going to get enough credit for this.
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